LOT Polish takes delivery of its 737-8 MAX
Mar 12, 2019, 6:05 am
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- Cayman Airways, which has 2 MAX 8 aircraft in operation and 2 MAX 8 aircraft on order.
- Ethiopian Airlines which grounded its fleet of 4 MAX 8 aircraft. The airline has 25 more MAX 8 aircraft aircraft on order.
- Comair, which has 1 MAX 8 aircraft in operation and 7 MAX 8 aircraft on order.
- Royal Air Maroc, which has 2 MAX 8 aircraft in operation and 2 MAX 8 aircraft on order.
- MIAT Mongolian Airlines, which has 1 MAX 8 aircraft in operation and 3 MAX 8 aircraft on order.
- Aeroméxico, which has 6 MAX 8 aircraft in operation and 54 MAX aircraft on order.
- Aerolíneas Argentinas, which has 5 MAX 8 aircraft in operation and 8 MAX aircraft on order.
- Civil Aviation Administration of China, which grounded the 96 Boeing 737 MAX 8s in China.
- Ministry of Transport of Indonesia, which grounded 11 Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft in Indonesia. Both carriers have unfilled orders for a total of 240 MAX jets, according to Boeing's books.
He writes that’s more than a third of the 7M8 grounded that are in service.
TUI have grounded too per your post? I did not realise that, so the first European carrier to do so?
Mar 12, 2019, 6:38 am
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No Tui issued a statement yesterday that the 15 7M8 they currently operate in Europe will continue to fly.
Mar 12, 2019, 7:43 am
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The aircraft is now banned from the UK airspace, which means that LOT will have to rearrange operations to/from LHR (I doubt it will be a major issue, though, as they can still deploy SP-LWA/B/C/D i.e. the 738s).
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Mar 12, 2019, 7:46 am
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CAA has just announced that all MAX series aircraft are banned as a precaution from UK airspace.
Mar 12, 2019, 7:48 am
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Just having checked the booking system for today, it’s an E95 operating tonight’s flights to LHR.
Mar 12, 2019, 7:59 am
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Mar 12, 2019, 8:06 am
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Mar 12, 2019, 8:15 am
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This is an aviation safety expert talking in the Guardian. This isn’t an operational change, it’s an enforced change so the rules are slightly different. It’s not for a technical reason the aircraft can’t fly, it’s grounded.
Mar 12, 2019, 8:21 am
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We are talking cross purposes.
I’m not referring to the 7M8. There is no contractual basis to change a flight, outside of fare conditions, if it changes from say an E95 to a B738.
If an expert in the Grauniad is saying that pax who are booked on a 7M8 and wish to change, then that is different now that the U.K. CAA has banned it, and probably for some goodwill reasons but it’s not on legal contractual basis.
As it’s the Grauniad, pinch of salt should always be exercised in any case.
I’m not referring to the 7M8. There is no contractual basis to change a flight, outside of fare conditions, if it changes from say an E95 to a B738.
If an expert in the Grauniad is saying that pax who are booked on a 7M8 and wish to change, then that is different now that the U.K. CAA has banned it, and probably for some goodwill reasons but it’s not on legal contractual basis.
As it’s the Grauniad, pinch of salt should always be exercised in any case.
Mar 12, 2019, 8:28 am
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Of course not. LOT won’t be operating to the U.K. with those aircraft anymore. That matter is closed.
The confusion is that the Grauniad is talking in the context of U.K. and no one is thinking of tiny tiny LOT with it’s 3 flights a day.
A change of aircraft type under the same AOC is not a change in the contract and no rebooking.
So no change if it’s now an E95, but if Basia’s negotiating team bring in Blue Air again, then yes, they can change it’s a new carrier.
The confusion is that the Grauniad is talking in the context of U.K. and no one is thinking of tiny tiny LOT with it’s 3 flights a day.
A change of aircraft type under the same AOC is not a change in the contract and no rebooking.
So no change if it’s now an E95, but if Basia’s negotiating team bring in Blue Air again, then yes, they can change it’s a new carrier.
Mar 12, 2019, 8:36 am
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Of course not. LOT won’t be operating to the U.K. with those aircraft anymore. That matter is closed.
The confusion is that the Grauniad is talking in the context of U.K. and no one is thinking of tiny tiny LOT with it’s 3 flights a day.
A change of aircraft type under the same AOC is not a change in the contract and no rebooking.
So no change if it’s now an E95, but if Basia’s negotiating team bring in Blue Air again, then yes, they can change it’s a new carrier.
The confusion is that the Grauniad is talking in the context of U.K. and no one is thinking of tiny tiny LOT with it’s 3 flights a day.
A change of aircraft type under the same AOC is not a change in the contract and no rebooking.
So no change if it’s now an E95, but if Basia’s negotiating team bring in Blue Air again, then yes, they can change it’s a new carrier.