Lufthansa Cityline A340-300
Aug 7, 2015, 1:18 am
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LH Cityline A343
Looking to book a flight to TPA on the newly launched flights of LH. Is there already a seatmap available for the high density A343 that will operate this route? It's the first time to travel longhaul with the entire family (me, my wife and kids of 4 & 1), any seat recommendations in Y-class?
Thanks!
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Aug 7, 2015, 2:31 am
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Its just the regular LH 343 with a very small C cabin (2-3 rows) and Y starting after door 2. The usual seating guidelines apply.
Aug 10, 2015, 12:49 am
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Do a dummy booking for your selected date and flight and a seatmap with plenty of $$$-spending options should appear. Wonder how many categories of ASR there is going to be on Eurowings (Extra-Legroom, Front Row, Window, Standard; all with different prices 
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Sep 10, 2015, 2:11 pm
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D-AIGP is currently busy on training flights with new CLH pilots in Karlsruhe and in Schwerin next week. As part of the VC strike talks LH offered to limit 'JUMP' CLH 343 to 5 aircraft only, maybe this is showing in the schedules now.
Sep 11, 2015, 10:36 am
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Interesting.... MRU/MLE/CUN show as LH operated. TPA is still CL.
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>tn04febframru/alh TN04FEBFRAMRU/ALH ** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** MRU MAURITIUS.MU 04FEB16 11FEB16 1 LH 708 4 FRA 1 MRU 1645 0705+1 0 10DEC15 24MAR16 343 11:20 2 LH 708 7 FRA 1 MRU 1720 0740+1 0 13DEC15 20MAR16 343 11:20 3SA:LH9544 1247 FRA 1 JNB A 2045 0830+1 0 CONNECT JNB 346 SA:LH9550 1247 JNB B MRU 0940+1 1540+1 0 25JAN16 25FEB16 320 15:55 4SA:LH9544 56 FRA 1 JNB A 2045 0830+1 0 CONNECT JNB 346 SA:LH9536 56 JNB B MRU 1025+1 1625+1 0 05FEB16 06FEB16 738 16:40 5SA:LH9544 3 FRA 1 JNB A 2045 0830+1 0 CONNECT JNB 346 SA:LH9536 3 JNB B MRU 1025+1 1625+1 0 10FEB16 17FEB16 320 16:40 6 LH 116 124 FRA 1 MUC 2 1815 1915 0 CONNECT MUC 320 SA:LH9542 124 MUC 2 JNB A 2030 0815+1 0 CONNECT JNB 346 SA:LH9550 124 JNB B MRU 0940+1 1540+1 0 18JAN16 15FEB16 320 18:25 >tn04febfratpa/alh TN04FEBFRATPA/ALH ** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** TPA TAMPA.USFL 04FEB16 11FEB16 1CL*LH 482 1356 FRA 1 TPA 1100 1620 0 16NOV15 12MAR16 343 11:20 2 LH 402 D FRA 1 EWR B 1330 1615 0 CONNECT EWR 74H UA:LH7778 D EWR C TPA 1750 2048 0 05JAN16 12MAR16 738 13:18 3UA:LH9150 X6 FRA 1 ORD 5 1300 1535 0 CONNECT ORD 777 UA:LH9206 X6 ORD 1 TPA 1740 2123 0 10JAN16 11MAR16 320 14:23 4 LH 402 D FRA 1 EWR B 1330 1615 0 CONNECT EWR 74H UA:LH7776 D EWR C TPA 2000 2258 0 05JAN16 10FEB16 739 15:28 5 LH1004 4 FRA 1 BRU 0725 0825 0 CONNECT BRU 320 UA:LH8854 4 BRU EWR B 1010 1245 0 CONNECT EWR 777 UA:LH7774 4 EWR C TPA 1420 1708 0 11FEB16 11FEB16 738 15:43 6UA:LH7603 D FRA 1 EWR B 1105 1405 0 CONNECT EWR 777 UA:LH7778 D EWR C TPA 1750 2048 0 05JAN16 11FEB16 738 15:43 >tn04febframle/alh TN04FEBFRAMLE/ALH ** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** MLE MALE.MV 04FEB16 11FEB16 1 LH 704 36 FRA 1 MLE 1925 0905+1 0 09DEC15 26MAR16 343 9:40 NO MORE FLIGHTS 04FEB16 TO 11FEB16 >tn04febfracun/alh TN04FEBFRACUN/ALH ** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** CUN CANCUN.MX 04FEB16 11FEB16 1 LH 514 26 FRA 1 CUN 1425 2055 0 08DEC15 26MAR16 343 12:30 2 LH 440 4 FRA 1 IAH D 0950 1405 0 CONNECT IAH 388 UA:LH7910 4 IAH E CUN 3 1550 1906 0 11FEB16 11FEB16 738 15:16 3 LH 440 X2 FRA 1 IAH D 0950 1405 0 CONNECT IAH 388 UA:LH7910 X2 IAH E CUN 3 1550 1906 0 20JAN16 10FEB16 739 15:16 4 LH 094 X23 FRA 1 MUC 2 0715 0815 0 CONNECT MUC 321 UA:LH7902 X23 MUC 2 IAH E 0920 1420 0 CONNECT IAH 764 UA:LH7910 X23 IAH E CUN 3 1550 1906 0 21JAN16 08FEB16 739 17:51 5 LH 094 4 FRA 1 MUC 2 0715 0815 0 CONNECT MUC 321 UA:LH7902 4 MUC 2 IAH E 0920 1420 0 CONNECT IAH 764 UA:LH7910 4 IAH E CUN 3 1550 1906 0 11FEB16 11FEB16 738 17:51 >
Sep 14, 2015, 1:09 am
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NBO was never meant to be a JUMP destination. Jump/CL 343 are due to fly to MLE/CUN/TPA/MRU/PTY.
Mar 3, 2016, 8:57 am
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Do Lufthansa "Cityline" A340s offer the same business product as the mainline?
I was about to book a flight today when I noticed that the A340-300 on the route was listed as "Operated by Lufthansa Cityline" and only had 18 seats in business according to the seat map.
Please forgive my ignorance, but do the "Lufthansa Cityline" long-haul routes offer the same hard and soft products as Lufthansa's mainline? Ex. Will the seats be the full-flat new generation? And will the meals, amenity kit, etc be the same?
Thanks in advance for any info you have!
Please forgive my ignorance, but do the "Lufthansa Cityline" long-haul routes offer the same hard and soft products as Lufthansa's mainline? Ex. Will the seats be the full-flat new generation? And will the meals, amenity kit, etc be the same?
Thanks in advance for any info you have!
Mar 3, 2016, 9:05 am
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Cabin/seating/IFE is the same, just a small business class and the galleys are setup differently to cater for the larger economy cabin.
FAs are mainline LH, flight deck is Cityline, ie E190/CR9 pilots trained to fly A343.
FAs are mainline LH, flight deck is Cityline, ie E190/CR9 pilots trained to fly A343.
Mar 3, 2016, 9:14 am
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Thanks for the info oliver2002! Good to know that it isn't the old hard-product.
Whoa. That's a big step up from regional jets doing short-haul hops. Definitely a bit concerning that they don't use the mainline flight crews who probably have more long-haul wide-body experience...
Whoa. That's a big step up from regional jets doing short-haul hops. Definitely a bit concerning that they don't use the mainline flight crews who probably have more long-haul wide-body experience...
Mar 3, 2016, 9:18 am
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Thanks for the info oliver2002! Good to know that it isn't the old hard-product.
Whoa. That's a big step up from regional jets doing short-haul hops. Definitely a bit concerning that they don't use the mainline flight crews who probably have more long-haul wide-body experience...
Whoa. That's a big step up from regional jets doing short-haul hops. Definitely a bit concerning that they don't use the mainline flight crews who probably have more long-haul wide-body experience...
Mar 3, 2016, 9:30 am
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LH was acutely aware of that and made sure they passed the tests 
In fact last year there was quite a stir in the press about CL pilots failing the A340 conversion/rating tests. To me it was an indication that LH didn't take the retraining lightly 
In fact last year there was quite a stir in the press about CL pilots failing the A340 conversion/rating tests. To me it was an indication that LH didn't take the retraining lightly
Mar 3, 2016, 9:36 am
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I agree that they did not take the retraining lightly. It still is however a big difference to fly such a bird with the joystick in calm weather or on the flight simulator or to bring such big bird through real trouble. I recently flew an A380 fortunately only on a flight simulator and I did very well. Hopefully LH will not allow me to take the left seat on a bird like this.