Lufthansa Cityline A340-300

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Old Aug 7, 15, 1:18 am
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LH Cityline A343

Looking to book a flight to TPA on the newly launched flights of LH. Is there already a seatmap available for the high density A343 that will operate this route? It's the first time to travel longhaul with the entire family (me, my wife and kids of 4 & 1), any seat recommendations in Y-class?

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Old Aug 7, 15, 2:31 am
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Its just the regular LH 343 with a very small C cabin (2-3 rows) and Y starting after door 2. The usual seating guidelines apply.
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Old Aug 10, 15, 12:49 am
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Do a dummy booking for your selected date and flight and a seatmap with plenty of $$$-spending options should appear. Wonder how many categories of ASR there is going to be on Eurowings (Extra-Legroom, Front Row, Window, Standard; all with different prices )
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Old Sep 10, 15, 12:32 pm
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CityLine not to operate 'Jump' long haul?

I just received this notification pulled form Amadeus:



Is CityLine not to operate 'Jump' long haul anymore?
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Old Sep 10, 15, 2:11 pm
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D-AIGP is currently busy on training flights with new CLH pilots in Karlsruhe and in Schwerin next week. As part of the VC strike talks LH offered to limit 'JUMP' CLH 343 to 5 aircraft only, maybe this is showing in the schedules now.
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Old Sep 11, 15, 10:36 am
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Interesting.... MRU/MLE/CUN show as LH operated. TPA is still CL.

Code:
>tn04febframru/alh
TN04FEBFRAMRU/ALH                                                               
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** MRU MAURITIUS.MU                  04FEB16 11FEB16  
 1   LH 708  4    FRA 1 MRU    1645    0705+1 0 10DEC15 24MAR16 343 11:20       
 2   LH 708  7    FRA 1 MRU    1720    0740+1 0 13DEC15 20MAR16 343 11:20       
 3SA:LH9544  1247 FRA 1 JNB A  2045    0830+1 0 CONNECT JNB     346             
  SA:LH9550  1247 JNB B MRU    0940+1  1540+1 0 25JAN16 25FEB16 320 15:55       
 4SA:LH9544  56   FRA 1 JNB A  2045    0830+1 0 CONNECT JNB     346             
  SA:LH9536  56   JNB B MRU    1025+1  1625+1 0 05FEB16 06FEB16 738 16:40       
 5SA:LH9544  3    FRA 1 JNB A  2045    0830+1 0 CONNECT JNB     346             
  SA:LH9536  3    JNB B MRU    1025+1  1625+1 0 10FEB16 17FEB16 320 16:40       
 6   LH 116  124  FRA 1 MUC 2  1815    1915   0 CONNECT MUC     320             
  SA:LH9542  124  MUC 2 JNB A  2030    0815+1 0 CONNECT JNB     346             
  SA:LH9550  124  JNB B MRU    0940+1  1540+1 0 18JAN16 15FEB16 320 18:25       
>tn04febfratpa/alh
TN04FEBFRATPA/ALH                                                               
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** TPA TAMPA.USFL                    04FEB16 11FEB16  
 1CL*LH 482  1356 FRA 1 TPA    1100    1620   0 16NOV15 12MAR16 343 11:20       
 2   LH 402  D    FRA 1 EWR B  1330    1615   0 CONNECT EWR     74H             
  UA:LH7778  D    EWR C TPA    1750    2048   0 05JAN16 12MAR16 738 13:18       
 3UA:LH9150  X6   FRA 1 ORD 5  1300    1535   0 CONNECT ORD     777             
  UA:LH9206  X6   ORD 1 TPA    1740    2123   0 10JAN16 11MAR16 320 14:23       
 4   LH 402  D    FRA 1 EWR B  1330    1615   0 CONNECT EWR     74H             
  UA:LH7776  D    EWR C TPA    2000    2258   0 05JAN16 10FEB16 739 15:28       
 5   LH1004  4    FRA 1 BRU    0725    0825   0 CONNECT BRU     320             
  UA:LH8854  4    BRU   EWR B  1010    1245   0 CONNECT EWR     777             
  UA:LH7774  4    EWR C TPA    1420    1708   0 11FEB16 11FEB16 738 15:43       
 6UA:LH7603  D    FRA 1 EWR B  1105    1405   0 CONNECT EWR     777             
  UA:LH7778  D    EWR C TPA    1750    2048   0 05JAN16 11FEB16 738 15:43       
>tn04febframle/alh
TN04FEBFRAMLE/ALH                                                               
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** MLE MALE.MV                       04FEB16 11FEB16  
 1   LH 704  36   FRA 1 MLE    1925    0905+1 0 09DEC15 26MAR16 343  9:40       
NO MORE FLIGHTS  04FEB16  TO  11FEB16                                           
>tn04febfracun/alh
TN04FEBFRACUN/ALH                                                               
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** CUN CANCUN.MX                     04FEB16 11FEB16  
 1   LH 514  26   FRA 1 CUN    1425    2055   0 08DEC15 26MAR16 343 12:30       
 2   LH 440  4    FRA 1 IAH D  0950    1405   0 CONNECT IAH     388             
  UA:LH7910  4    IAH E CUN 3  1550    1906   0 11FEB16 11FEB16 738 15:16       
 3   LH 440  X2   FRA 1 IAH D  0950    1405   0 CONNECT IAH     388             
  UA:LH7910  X2   IAH E CUN 3  1550    1906   0 20JAN16 10FEB16 739 15:16       
 4   LH 094  X23  FRA 1 MUC 2  0715    0815   0 CONNECT MUC     321             
  UA:LH7902  X23  MUC 2 IAH E  0920    1420   0 CONNECT IAH     764             
  UA:LH7910  X23  IAH E CUN 3  1550    1906   0 21JAN16 08FEB16 739 17:51       
 5   LH 094  4    FRA 1 MUC 2  0715    0815   0 CONNECT MUC     321             
  UA:LH7902  4    MUC 2 IAH E  0920    1420   0 CONNECT IAH     764             
  UA:LH7910  4    IAH E CUN 3  1550    1906   0 11FEB16 11FEB16 738 17:51       
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Old Sep 13, 15, 5:14 am
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I heard today the rumour that the ne NBO flights are now to be operated by Privateair instead of Cityline. Due to loads or do the rumours about JUMP prove to have been correct?
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Old Sep 14, 15, 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by FollowTheSun View Post
I heard today the rumour that the ne NBO flights are now to be operated by Privateair instead of Cityline. Due to loads or do the rumours about JUMP prove to have been correct?
NBO was never meant to be a JUMP destination. Jump/CL 343 are due to fly to MLE/CUN/TPA/MRU/PTY.
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Old Mar 3, 16, 8:57 am
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Do Lufthansa "Cityline" A340s offer the same business product as the mainline?

I was about to book a flight today when I noticed that the A340-300 on the route was listed as "Operated by Lufthansa Cityline" and only had 18 seats in business according to the seat map.

Please forgive my ignorance, but do the "Lufthansa Cityline" long-haul routes offer the same hard and soft products as Lufthansa's mainline? Ex. Will the seats be the full-flat new generation? And will the meals, amenity kit, etc be the same?

Thanks in advance for any info you have!
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Old Mar 3, 16, 9:05 am
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Cabin/seating/IFE is the same, just a small business class and the galleys are setup differently to cater for the larger economy cabin.

FAs are mainline LH, flight deck is Cityline, ie E190/CR9 pilots trained to fly A343.
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Old Mar 3, 16, 9:14 am
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Thanks for the info oliver2002! Good to know that it isn't the old hard-product.

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ie E190/CR9 pilots trained to fly A343.
Whoa. That's a big step up from regional jets doing short-haul hops. Definitely a bit concerning that they don't use the mainline flight crews who probably have more long-haul wide-body experience...
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Old Mar 3, 16, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by blahmeh14 View Post
Thanks for the info oliver2002! Good to know that it isn't the old hard-product.



Whoa. That's a big step up from regional jets doing short-haul hops. Definitely a bit concerning that they don't use the mainline flight crews who probably have more long-haul wide-body experience...
The idea is exactly not to use the main line flightcrews. The pilots on the mainline are causing quite a bit of the problems. I however agree to your concern. An A340 is a different animal compared to an E190.
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Old Mar 3, 16, 9:30 am
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LH was acutely aware of that and made sure they passed the tests In fact last year there was quite a stir in the press about CL pilots failing the A340 conversion/rating tests. To me it was an indication that LH didn't take the retraining lightly
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Old Mar 3, 16, 9:36 am
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LH was acutely aware of that and made sure they passed the tests In fact last year there was quite a stir in the press about CL pilots failing the A340 conversion/rating tests. To me it was an indication that LH didn't take the retraining lightly
I agree that they did not take the retraining lightly. It still is however a big difference to fly such a bird with the joystick in calm weather or on the flight simulator or to bring such big bird through real trouble. I recently flew an A380 fortunately only on a flight simulator and I did very well. Hopefully LH will not allow me to take the left seat on a bird like this.
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Old Mar 3, 16, 9:42 am
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Trust me they don't pass your conversion training just in a simulator with fair weather in 5 min.
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