LOT Polish Airlines - Seat Selection

Old Jul 1, 22, 6:03 am
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Thank you for your reply,

Shame that seat selection and check-in is so clunky with LOT, I would've hoped as it's not peak summer season yet maybe the flight would not have been so full.

I'll just hope for the best, but do what is necessary )
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Old Jul 1, 22, 6:43 am
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I have found EF seatmaps less and less useful. Probably the only thing you can be sure of, if it says the seat is occupied, it is occupied.

But it says seats are blocked which are not, seats are paid which are not, even seats are available which are not bookable even for pay for a given pax.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 6:50 am
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You can still change seat by calling LOT Contact Centre.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by iLied View Post
You can still change seat by calling LOT Contact Centre.
I'd only do this in an "extreme" circumstance though. Like being placed in the nightmare rows 10-11 where there are no windows

Realistically, I don't think I would pay to call them for a seat change, considering I've already paid 16 for a seat. I just hope they fix their dodgy website, as in my opinion their hard product is pretty good.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk View Post
I have found EF seatmaps less and less useful. Probably the only thing you can be sure of, if it says the seat is occupied, it is occupied.

But it says seats are blocked which are not, seats are paid which are not, even seats are available which are not bookable even for pay for a given pax.
To be honest they work quite well with airlines like British Airways, so I wonder if it could be an airline specific thing.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 9:01 am
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EF pulls the seatmap without any reference and displays the result. LO is showing you how they have assigned the cabin using Altea Theoretical Seating and what choices they will allow you based on the background they have on your specific case.

FWIW here is what amadeus is showing me: (row 1-4 business, 5-7 blocked, probably for PE)


Code:
SM LO 0286/C/03JULLHRWAW/V
SM LO  0286  C 03JUL LHRWAW        73H
        A  B  C     D  E  F 
C  1    +     +     +     +   1  C
   2    +     +     +     +   2   
   3    +     +     +     +   3   
   4    V     V     V     V   4   
        A  B  C     D  E  F 
 
 
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT 
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET 
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

>sm/1/y/v
SM LO 0286/Y/03JULLHRWAW/V
SM LO  0286  Y 03JUL LHRWAW        73H
        A  B  C     D  E  F 
Y  5    /  /  /     /  /  /   5  Y
   6    /  /  /     /  /  /   6   
   7    /  /  /     /  /  /   7   
   8    +  /  +     /  /  +   8   
   9    +  /  /     /  +  +   9   
  10    +  /  /     /  /  +   10  
        A  B  C     D  E  F 
 
         A  B  C     D  E  F 
Y 11     /  /  /     /  /  /     11 Y
  12 <   /  D  /     /  /  /   > 12  
  13 <   +  +  +     +  /  +   > 13  
  14 <E  +  /  /     /  /  +  E> 14  
         A  B  C     D  E  F 
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT 
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET 
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

SM LO 0286/Y/03JULLHRWAW/V                                                      
  15 <E  /  /  /     /  /  /  E> 15                                             
  16 <   +  /  /     +  /  +   > 16                                             
  17 <   +  /  /     /  /  /   > 17                                             
  18 <   /  /  /     /  /  /   > 18                                             
  19 <   /  /  /     /  /  /   > 19                                             
  20     /  /  /     /  /  /     20                                             
         A  B  C     D  E  F                                                    
                                                                                
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
Y 21    +  +  /     /  /  /   21 Y                                              
  22    /  /  /     /  /  /   22                                                
  23    /  /  /     /  U  /   23                                                
  24    /  /  /     /  /  +   24                                                
  25    /  /  +     /  /  +   25                                                
  26    +  /  /     /  /  /   26                                                
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT               
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET               
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR              
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR              
Y CHARGEABLE                                                                    
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Old Jul 1, 22, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
EF pulls the seatmap without any reference and displays the result. LO is showing you how they have assigned the cabin using Altea Theoretical Seating and what choices they will allow you based on the background they have on your specific case.

FWIW here is what amadeus is showing me: (row 1-4 business, 5-7 blocked, probably for PE)



Code:
SM LO 0286/C/03JULLHRWAW/V
SM LO 0286 C 03JUL LHRWAW 73H
A B C D E F
C 1 + + + + 1 C
2 + + + + 2
3 + + + + 3
4 V V V V 4
A B C D E F


. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

>sm/1/y/v
SM LO 0286/Y/03JULLHRWAW/V
SM LO 0286 Y 03JUL LHRWAW 73H
A B C D E F
Y 5 / / / / / / 5 Y
6 / / / / / / 6
7 / / / / / / 7
8 + / + / / + 8
9 + / / / + + 9
10 + / / / / + 10
A B C D E F

A B C D E F
Y 11 / / / / / / 11 Y
12 < / D / / / / > 12
13 < + + + + / + > 13
14 <E + / / / / + E> 14
A B C D E F
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

SM LO 0286/Y/03JULLHRWAW/V
15 <E / / / / / / E> 15
16 < + / / + / + > 16
17 < + / / / / / > 17
18 < / / / / / / > 18
19 < / / / / / / > 19
20 / / / / / / 20
A B C D E F

A B C D E F
Y 21 + + / / / / 21 Y
22 / / / / / / 22
23 / / / / U / 23
24 / / / / / + 24
25 / / + / / + 25
26 + / / / / / 26
A B C D E F
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>
Thank you for providing such interesting information! It's really surprising how many sites you can use to pull off seating maps etc. from.
On Amadeus 9B and C are also blocked. Hm.

I wonder what the load factor on the flight is, would it be possible to check?
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Old Jul 1, 22, 10:49 am
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9 B & are available for reservation against payment. EF pulls its data from Gallileo.

Loads are not on the public domain.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
9 B & are available for reservation against payment. EF pulls its data from Gallileo.

Loads are not on the public domain.
By loads I meant like ticket selling classes - if this is even done with airlines such as LOT.

I am normally more active over on the British Airways forum and loads are more easily checked on the basis of how many ticket buckets are left. (etc. J9 Y3 U4)
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Old Jul 1, 22, 11:35 am
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Since mid-March 2022 all European routes only have Y and C. Theres no PE on any LOT flights anymore within Europe, only on long haul and even then on a feeder youre in Y irrespective of destination.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by iLied View Post
Since mid-March 2022 all European routes only have Y and C. Theres no PE on any LOT flights anymore within Europe, only on long haul and even then on a feeder youre in Y irrespective of destination.
Shame, as it really was like a weird semi-business class for sometimes half the price

Wish they would stop marketing it when you try to buy a flight then, and make the choices only "Eco" and "Business"
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Old Jul 1, 22, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by IFlyPlanes View Post
Shame, as it really was like a weird semi-business class for sometimes half the price

Wish they would stop marketing it when you try to buy a flight then, and make the choices only "Eco" and "Business"
As stated its still available on long haul flights so they still provide that service.

Dropping it on short haul makes sense as there is now two distinct service classes making service easier.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 12:15 pm
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The number of seats you can choose is based on the type of fare you have chosen to buy. Saver has the least choice, standard has more, and Flex has the most. HON/SEN can pick pretty much anywhere.

Sometimes thinking you're being more informed by EF is counterintuitive as there is nothing to be interpreted from 9B being blocked from your own bookings perspective.

There's immense disruption all over Europe not to mention the NOTAM for The Ukraine affecting Warsaw. Look out for canx, or just a very full flight with rebookings.
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Old Jul 1, 22, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by iLied View Post
As stated its still available on long haul flights so they still provide that service.

Dropping it on short haul makes sense as there is now two distinct service classes making service easier.
I meant for booking short haul flights - to have just two options instead of 3, with the premium eco being "Unavailable"

Originally Posted by hugolover View Post
The number of seats you can choose is based on the type of fare you have chosen to buy. Saver has the least choice, standard has more, and Flex has the most. HON/SEN can pick pretty much anywhere.

Sometimes thinking you're being more informed by EF is counterintuitive as there is nothing to be interpreted from 9B being blocked from your own bookings perspective.

There's immense disruption all over Europe not to mention the NOTAM for The Ukraine affecting Warsaw. Look out for canx, or just a very full flight with rebookings.
Fair enough, didn't realise that can simply be the case too. Thank you for the heads up

With saver though, can't you buy any seat in economy for a fee?
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Old Jul 1, 22, 2:39 pm
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Little update now:

LOT have returned the seat 6A (my original seat!) back to economy. However, it's taken as of now. It's only a little thing but it's quite a joke honestly, should have made up their mind the first time.
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