LOT operated by/for Nordica EE [merged]
Feb 13, 2019, 11:59 pm
#197
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Today in Estonian press:
Intervjuu Nordica juhiga: lennuliinide kokkutõmbamise majanduslikku kasu näeme juba praegu! - ärileht.ee
Short resume from interview with Nordica CEO Hannes Sarapuu:
Nordica do not like different decisions made in Warsaw regarding Nordica operations.
They seriously consider buyout Nordica Regional Jet 49% share from LOT (most probably means -- will wait until Estonian parliament elections results and new government and then ask for it money)
LOT in end of 2018 was very worried about all the Nordica delays and the compensations what LOT was forced to pay to passengers (there comes also my several thousands eur). And "on the table" was also possibility to leave LO only for WAW-TLL route (what actually even today is not pure Nordica, but pure LOT route, where sometimes fly Nordica aircraft)
So... will see about Nordica and LOT.
As their CEO told -- currently they do not have yet signed any contract for their own commercial platform.
I think, that they will wait result of our parliament elections and will decide after that regarding the future force-lines in Estonian goverment.
Estonian do not like the idea, that Nordica close some routes to fly somewhere in Sweden to local municipalities at all.
Only idea of Nordica was to offer direct routes from Tallinn.
As I wrote before -- I personally hope, that Nordica will not use EE code and stay closely connected with LOT.
Otherwise they will have for me absolutely no sense to fly with them.
Local Nordica bosses seems to not like situation where LOT make big decisions. Ego?
Intervjuu Nordica juhiga: lennuliinide kokkutõmbamise majanduslikku kasu näeme juba praegu! - ärileht.ee
Short resume from interview with Nordica CEO Hannes Sarapuu:
Nordica do not like different decisions made in Warsaw regarding Nordica operations.
They seriously consider buyout Nordica Regional Jet 49% share from LOT (most probably means -- will wait until Estonian parliament elections results and new government and then ask for it money)
LOT in end of 2018 was very worried about all the Nordica delays and the compensations what LOT was forced to pay to passengers (there comes also my several thousands eur). And "on the table" was also possibility to leave LO only for WAW-TLL route (what actually even today is not pure Nordica, but pure LOT route, where sometimes fly Nordica aircraft)
So... will see about Nordica and LOT.
As their CEO told -- currently they do not have yet signed any contract for their own commercial platform.
I think, that they will wait result of our parliament elections and will decide after that regarding the future force-lines in Estonian goverment.
Estonian do not like the idea, that Nordica close some routes to fly somewhere in Sweden to local municipalities at all.
Only idea of Nordica was to offer direct routes from Tallinn.
As I wrote before -- I personally hope, that Nordica will not use EE code and stay closely connected with LOT.
Otherwise they will have for me absolutely no sense to fly with them.
Local Nordica bosses seems to not like situation where LOT make big decisions. Ego?
Feb 14, 2019, 5:13 am
#198
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Well, as you can see from the various small airlines going belly up in Europe right now, its not really possible to run such a small airline standalone. If EE would cut loose from LO it would not last long.
Feb 14, 2019, 6:58 am
#199
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Feb 15, 2019, 7:23 am
#200
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Feb 15, 2019, 4:01 pm
#202
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Yeah, but the likes of BM don't have the British or Scottish governments breathing down their necks telling them what to do, unlike EE.
Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 pm
#203
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I think that personally, they could keep going with LOT even with their own commercial platform, as they have agreements in place.
Jun 19, 2019, 9:41 am
#208
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Nordica should have been operating the PSO route Tallinn-Saaremaa but it’s a whole mess that contract.
Also LH will start MUC-TLL-MUC from 4th November using an Airbus A319-100 leaving MUC at the same time as the Nordica flight. These will be Monday, Thursday & Saturday. I suspect the LH codeshare won’t be returning. I wonder what will happen to the Nordica flights.
Also LH will start MUC-TLL-MUC from 4th November using an Airbus A319-100 leaving MUC at the same time as the Nordica flight. These will be Monday, Thursday & Saturday. I suspect the LH codeshare won’t be returning. I wonder what will happen to the Nordica flights.
Jun 19, 2019, 12:45 pm
#209
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There is NO Nordica LO/EE flights on MUC-TLL route already since end of March.
And most probably never will be again.
Now, when LH reopen that route (they operated it earlier) there will be also 0 demand for Nordica on this route.
And most probably never will be again.
Now, when LH reopen that route (they operated it earlier) there will be also 0 demand for Nordica on this route.
Jun 19, 2019, 1:22 pm
#210
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You don’t know there will be 0 demand. Maybe some will travel with them because of when they fly and maybe with LH because of when they fly. It’s about what’s practical.