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Adria (JP) takes over Darwin Airline (F7) from Etihad
I was reading this morning that JP is taking over F7.
This is good news for travellers out of LUG and GVA, where F7 has its bases. Hopefully the new "Adria Airways Switzerland" will be part of *A and JP won't pull a EW/4U stunt. |
I'm not sure this will be good news for those of us in that region. Probably means the end of Darwin Airline.
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Yes... soon F7 flights will be seen in the far north or fliying into the pustza of BUD... LOT and nordica are calling...
GVA / LUG are definitively over... except ZRH-LUG-ZRH LX flights could show up in the future by LX op by OU op by F7... |
I wonder if they will remove the Etihad Regional logo, and reinstate the Darwin Airline one - I rather like it. I preferred seeing the Darwin logo flying over the Alps rather than the Etihad one!
The original 2-letter code for Darwin was 0D, I think. Will they retain the F7 code, which I believe belonged to FlyBaboo before? |
Originally Posted by Concerto
(Post 28604316)
I wonder if they will remove the Etihad Regional logo, and reinstate the Darwin Airline one - I rather like it. I preferred seeing the Darwin logo flying over the Alps rather than the Etihad one!
The original 2-letter code for Darwin was 0D, I think. Will they retain the F7 code, which I believe belonged to FlyBaboo before? I presume we will still see them active in Lugano and Geneva. Ticino had a vested interest in Darwin, they wouldn't have sold as easily if there weren't some guarantees in terms of some minimum coverage of Lugano. |
Originally Posted by malmostoso
(Post 28599137)
This is good news for travellers out of LUG and GVA, where F7 has its bases. Hopefully the new "Adria Airways Switzerland" will be part of *A and JP won't pull a EW/4U stunt.
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Originally Posted by GVA
(Post 28605512)
No will be branded as Adria Airways Switzerland.
I presume we will still see them active in Lugano and Geneva. Ticino had a vested interest in Darwin, they wouldn't have sold as easily if there weren't some guarantees in terms of some minimum coverage of Lugano.
Originally Posted by Flying Lawyer
(Post 28606832)
Unfortunately JP is a bit of a stunt itself. Owned by private equity, JPs perspective will certainly not be that of a great carrier but so more that of a great asset to earn money for the shareholders.
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JP is not owned by LH at all: https://www.adria.si/en/press-centre/2016/majority-share-takeover-of-adria-airways-d.d.-completed/
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 28612126)
JP is not owned by LH at all: https://www.adria.si/en/press-centre....d.-completed/
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Here is the launch publicity for Adria Airways Switzerland. Looks not too bad actually, maybe some good opportunities for mileage earning and spending.
https://www.adriaairways.ch/en-us/adria_switzerland/ |
Ah, neat. Another direct option for me to CH to compete with U2. But, mileage earning and redemption will be the only thing that sets JP apart since they, too, operate non-reclineable seats (important when your positioning flight boards before 6:00am and you're still a zombie) and water-is-the-only-free-drink service.
EDIT -- Ah, nevermind. LJU is still the hub. No direct connects between CH and Balkans as far as I can tell. My dream (not) of flying JP ex-Balkans to destinations other than LJU, MUC, and FRA is on hold still. Thank goodness for OS for giving me a real *A option. |
Following the grounding of SkyWork Airlines (Bern, CH), Adria Airways will offer 4 destinations from the capital of Switzerland using Saab 2000 operated by Darwin Airline. Starting November 6.
https://www.adria.si/en/news/2017/ai...?SaveCountry=1 |
Where do they find the planes and crews to do this, especially given that one of their ex-CityLine CRJ-700's has been leased to LG (for their upcoming SCN-TXL service)?
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Darwin/Adria has fired 15 staff at LUG and appears to be leaving Ticino (Link in Italian).
LX is not planning to add any flights besides LUG-ZRH. Dire times for LUG. |
Not good about the staff at LUG. Also, I wonder what will to proposed Berne operations now that Skywork is apparently flying again.
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Originally Posted by Concerto
(Post 29012824)
Not good about the staff at LUG. Also, I wonder what will to proposed Berne operations now that Skywork is apparently flying again.
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Originally Posted by malmostoso
(Post 29007582)
Darwin/Adria has fired 15 staff at LUG and appears to be leaving Ticino (Link in Italian).
LX is not planning to add any flights besides LUG-ZRH. Dire times for LUG. ZRH is too close (with SBB providing reliable service) It's just like those regional airports in Germany where a big hub is less than 2 hours away. |
Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
(Post 29015012)
MXP is too close (and with more rail links to come even closer!)
ZRH is too close (with SBB providing reliable service) |
Originally Posted by jonatan
(Post 29014373)
Adria canceled all operations from Bern.
Totally agree with the check in desk at Lugano station, but I don't see it happening. |
Unofficially, a Swiss civil aviation agency (CAA) withheld the licence from Darwin Airlines. Adria (JP) cancelled a couple of flights today.
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What the heck happened there? This is like bananland! Are they actually in financial difficulty? Sorry if I've missed something major here. Incidentally, another upstart airline, Powdair, is having difficulty after one of their financial backers walked away. Powdair was hoping to connect Sion to the rest of Europe and hasn't even started operations yet.
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Apparently grounded "for economic and financial reasons" :(
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f81a18230d.jpg |
Somehow VLM Airlines managed to make a comeback, which smacks of something strange, shadowy and handshakey to me. But I don’t think Darwin Airline will come back. Shame, because both they and FlyBaboo filled the gap left by Crossair back in the mid 2000s. The thing that bothers me a bit, yet again, is that there was no mention of something being wrong, no rumbling in the background like with Skywork. Incidentally, what is their status?
Just to be clear, Adria Airways itself is ok and continues operating, right? We are just talking about the Adria Switzerland sub brand here I believe? |
Adria continues operating, but not exactly on the best financial terms one would say.
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Do you mean Adria Switzerland, or the Adria Airways based in Ljubljana? Looks like Sion is destined to become an airport of history what with this and the PowdAir debacle. In the paper this morning app Darwin pilots have been asked to work for no salary this month and no guarantee of one on December.
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Originally Posted by Concerto
(Post 29117575)
Do you mean Adria Switzerland, or the Adria Airways based in Ljubljana?
Adria Airways yesterday (29NOV17) announced routes addition for summer 2018 season, including selected service resumption. Planned new service as follows. Ljubljana – Brač eff 28APR18 2 weekly Saab 2000 by Adria Airways Switzerland JP742 LJU1220 – 1325BWK S20 36 JP743 BWK1510 – 1620LJU S20 36 Ljubljana – Bucharest eff 25MAR18 4 weekly Saab 2000 by Adria Airways Switzerland (Last served in August 2009) JP718 LJU1205 – 1455OTP S20 x356 JP719 OTP1525 – 1630LJU S20 x356 Ljubljana – Dubrovnik eff 27APR18 2 weekly Saab 2000 by Adria Airways Switzerland (Dubrovnik last served in August 1991) JP734 LJU1210 – 1325DBV S20 35 JP735 DBV1505 – 1620LJU S20 35 Ljubljana – Geneva eff 26MAR18 3 weekly Saab 2000 by Adria Airways Switzerland JP378 LJU0705 – 0830GVA S20 4 JP378 LJU1755 – 1920GVA S20 12 JP379 GVA1005 – 1120LJU S20 4 JP379 GVA2020 – 2135LJU S20 12 Ljubljana – Hamburg eff 25MAR18 4 weekly Saab 2000 by Adria Airways Switzerland JP182 LJU0700 – 0900HAM S20 45 JP182 LJU1720 – 1920HAM S20 17 JP183 HAM0930 – 1140LJU S20 45 JP183 HAM1955 – 2205LJU S20 17 Ljubljana – Sofia eff 25MAR18 3 weekly Saab 2000 by Adria Airways Switzerland JP324 LJU1205 – 1445SOF S20 147 JP325 SOF1530 – 1610LJU S20 147 |
F7 is officially bankrupt.
With the new train link between Lugano and MXP I think this is the end for LUG as well. |
Noticed that at least one of the Saabs Adria acquired is now complimenting the Dash-8s for LX on LUG-ZRH.
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Originally Posted by dinoscool3
(Post 30278114)
Noticed that at least one of the Saabs Adria acquired is now complimenting the Dash-8s for LX on LUG-ZRH.
Dash-8 (blushing): "Thank you!" |
Starting then, Adria will take over SWISS’ wet-leased Zurich-Lugano route from Austrian for economic reasons, a spokesperson in Zurich told ATW. Adria will operate a 50-seat Saab 2000 that is better suited to this domestic route than Austrian’s 76-seat Q400. Lugano will be the only destination that Adria serves for SWISS. |
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