Pilots go on strike! Not again... [Nov 2016 edition]
Nov 23, 2016, 5:28 am
#91
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,163
Yes it does. Delay or cancellation compensation will not be given since LH will claim extraordinary circumstances but the duty of care elements are due to each and every passenger for the period of their delay. That can include accommodation, food, drink, communications and local transport as appropriate and required.
I don't want to be the one to test it, but the longer this goes on without settlement and sometimes with manoevering by LH which could be interpreted as provocative, I wonder if LH cannot at least in part be held to account.
I don't want to be the one to test it, but the longer this goes on without settlement and sometimes with manoevering by LH which could be interpreted as provocative, I wonder if LH cannot at least in part be held to account.
Nov 23, 2016, 5:36 am
#92
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Austin, TX USA
Programs: BA, CX, LH, WN
Posts: 211
any update on the special flight plan for the 24th? i'm not able to get through any phone lines - i just gave up and planning to head to airport tomorrow and work it out there.
The FRA-SJC incoming flight is already in-flight, which means very high chance that the SJC-FRA will definitely go as per plan tomorrow. So I'll just have to get stranted in FRA and try my re-route chances from there? overall a very messed up situation and not the first time happening to LH and its unions..
The FRA-SJC incoming flight is already in-flight, which means very high chance that the SJC-FRA will definitely go as per plan tomorrow. So I'll just have to get stranted in FRA and try my re-route chances from there? overall a very messed up situation and not the first time happening to LH and its unions..
Nov 23, 2016, 6:15 am
#93
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 157
any update on the special flight plan for the 24th? i'm not able to get through any phone lines - i just gave up and planning to head to airport tomorrow and work it out there.
The FRA-SJC incoming flight is already in-flight, which means very high chance that the SJC-FRA will definitely go as per plan tomorrow. So I'll just have to get stranted in FRA and try my re-route chances from there? overall a very messed up situation and not the first time happening to LH and its unions..
The FRA-SJC incoming flight is already in-flight, which means very high chance that the SJC-FRA will definitely go as per plan tomorrow. So I'll just have to get stranted in FRA and try my re-route chances from there? overall a very messed up situation and not the first time happening to LH and its unions..
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Nov 23, 2016, 7:24 am
#94
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London | Sydney
Programs: LH HON, QF CL, SQ TPPS, AF Plat, VS Gold, VA Plat, EK Gold, HH Diamond, WoH Globalist, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,528
Nov 23, 2016, 7:25 am
#95
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: a proud member of FT since 05-05-1998
Programs: DL, AF and KL - UA - *G
Posts: 2,239
Nov 23, 2016, 7:57 am
#96
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,752
There are no air-side hotels in Frankfurt, so if you cannot enter Germany and have to spend the night in the airport the best you can hope for is a camping bed.
Nov 23, 2016, 8:08 am
#97
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: KUO
Programs: HH Diam, AY/AX/KQ/IHG/VISA Plat, SK/Bonvoy/Melia/Strawberry Gold, Radisson Prem, PP Prest
Posts: 2,264
I do not know the figures of savings that LH makes by using EW pilots in their cockpits. But as a regular LH passenger and pilot myself, I pay attention to the quality of the pilots who must indeed safely fly the big machine. Hence, I hate that LH saves bucks on pilots by hiring cheap EW pilots and would rather drink in a plastic cup in C if savings have to be made.
Stuck in Rome... Last time was stuck in SFO. I bet I know when the next strike will take place and will be stuck in AGP!
Nov 23, 2016, 8:26 am
#98
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 31,452
Yes it does. Delay or cancellation compensation will not be given since LH will claim extraordinary circumstances but the duty of care elements are due to each and every passenger for the period of their delay. That can include accommodation, food, drink, communications and local transport as appropriate and required.
I don't want to be the one to test it, but the longer this goes on without settlement and sometimes with manoevering by LH which could be interpreted as provocative, I wonder if LH cannot at least in part be held to account.
I don't want to be the one to test it, but the longer this goes on without settlement and sometimes with manoevering by LH which could be interpreted as provocative, I wonder if LH cannot at least in part be held to account.
Nov 23, 2016, 10:37 am
#102
Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: AA Exp
Posts: 836
Nov 23, 2016, 10:53 am
#103
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SIN (with a bit of ZRH sprinkled in)
Posts: 9,453
Nov 23, 2016, 11:06 am
#105
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: GRR, USA
Posts: 3,298