AlicorporateUK

Their latest network strategy certainly doesn't strike me as being a model of efficiency, see also those weekly services which don't seem to make any sort of sense [and in fact they get cancelled soon after launch e.g. Turin or even those flights to Ukraine from the likes of Poznań and Bydgoszcz...]. As of their disastrous performance, it seems to be standard modus-operandi over the peak months (and as far as I can remember) hence I'm unable to see how the forthcoming summer season could be any different. It shouldn't affect me anyway this summer as LH/OS/JU will all provide valid transport alternatives for the trips over to HQ

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fifty_two

Bongiorno

about turin i can understand your point , iam curious to see the datas used during the market analysis which lead them to open this route

about the flights to ukraine from poznan or bydgoszcz its simply because of huge ukrainian diaspora , many enjoy flights who help them to avoid queues at borders (my record is 6h , but according to many people iam lucky cause you can spend whole night before crossing border) , or to transit by KBP or WAW

W6 and FR are starting (or started already) flights between ukrainian/polish cities other than kiev and warsaw , which allow pax to then reach their villages faster . Therefore sucking the traffic out of LO/PS hands

hugolover

AlicorporateUK

yurtripper

Thank you for saying this. I said the same thing once in another thread and got my head bitten off for it.

I meet and know lots of people here whose income is far in excess of mine, people who are very high up the pecking order in banks and other private sector companies, and I feel like a lavish spendthrift in comparison to these guys just because I almost never fly the ULCCs. When a bank president virtually snorts out his coffee because you propose flying a full service carrier rather than Ryanair/Wizz for his skiing trip or his jaunt to Andalusia, or mention considering LO PE for a TATL rather than basic Y, it feels surreal. If I met people in equivalent positions in Russia (and I have) they'd laugh at me for suggesting anything other than J/F, thinking I was some guy who probably slept on a park bench.

It's often the same on holiday also. The senior director/exec from PL would go off to Sharm or Hurghada (when these places were still popular) on a full-board hotel with a charter flight, eat and drink only what the hotel provided throughout the stay, and then on the last day take a trip to the local market, where they'd spend an hour or more beating some poor souvenir hawker down to the lowest conceivable price, before heading back to PL having taken virtually no money out of their pocket for the entire stay (one guy even boasted about how he never even took his wallet because all the costs were covered!).

Compare that to the Russians, who would drink the place dry and then some, and spend like it was going out of fashion. One of my best friends (now sadly departed) worked as an Egyptian tour manager. He told me that after the bombing of the Russian flight from Sharm killed tourism, everyone was crying about the loss of revenue from Russians, but when it came to the Poles they hardly cared, since virtually none of their money ever left the hotel they were booked in.

Of course, the kind of people I refer to still drop silly money on conventional status symbols, like cars, but when it comes to air travel I can't overemphasis just how price-sensitive PL and UA seems to be, even for people who earn more in an afternoon than I do in a week. There's nothing wrong with wanting to save money, but I'm still amazed at how price-sensitive even the highest echelon of earners are when it comes to air travel.

marcoos

You're missing one important factor here. The middle-of-the-night regions-to-Lviv flights (and also routes like WAW-IEG) are subsidized ("advertising using aviation" tenders; Ryanair technique copied by LOT) by the regional and/or municipal administrations. It makes their otherwise useless airports look "alive", LOT gets cash, the passengers flying on these weird flights get a lot of free space, and taxpayers apparently don't really seem to care. So, everyone's happy.

AlicorporateUK

Starting from September, LOT will launch 2 new services from Budapest, namely București/OTP and Bruxelles/BRU.

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GBM.flights

That's quite surprising. OTP seems a complete new found love (following the KRK-OTP service). And I didn't realize that currently there is no BRU service ex-BUD (just CRL from FR and W6)

tem123

SN still flies BRU-BUD-BRU up to three times a day during the week

marcoos

New seasonal route to Sri Lanka, on a 787-9, November-March;

• LO 069 WAW-CMB 15:35-05:10+1 Wed, Fri, Sun
• LO 070 CMB-WAW 07:35-13:30 Mon, Thu, Sat

A regular route, not a charter.

TPJ

High yield destination

yurtripper

Hey, at least they put it at a reasonable time, for the peak season. I was half expecting they would offer it only for JUN-SEP!

hugolover

oliver2002

Now Air Belgium is operating for LOT:

oliver2002

The new WAW-DEL vv service is very nicely timed, didn't realise its a night flight...