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hugolover Jun 15, 2018 11:07 am

LCY! Wow...

So we can expect some lovely seat dumps from Papa Lufty.

AlicorporateUK Jun 15, 2018 11:13 am

Great news on both fronts, thanks yurtripper. There’s no high-speed rail between Warsaw and Lublin and a same-day return is a drag, at least I can fly on the way back, shame just that they couldn’t do better times (e.g. morning service). The LCY service is a very welcome and needed addition to the Warsaw network ^

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yurtripper Jun 15, 2018 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by AlicorporateUK (Post 29870534)
Great news on both fronts, thanks yurtripper. There’s no high-speed rail between Warsaw and Lublin and a same-day return is a drag, at least I can fly on the way back, shame just that they couldn’t do better times (e.g. morning service). The LCY service is a very welcome and needed addition to the Warsaw network ^

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And in E-jets too :)

hugolover Jun 15, 2018 3:55 pm

Manchester
Edinburgh

They would be great!

milepig Jun 15, 2018 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by hugolover (Post 29411866)
Very poor P & J loads on LO9/10 (KRK-ORD) so far, pretty good in Y.

Forward bookings on RZE-EWR not so bad this far out, but most flights have 0 pax booked in P and J.

Surprised they're not heavy with staff friends on their 1300zl J fares.

I just scored a dirt cheap biz ORD/FRA rt via KRK in Z for about 1/4 of what UA/LH wanted for the non-stop. I’ve done this via WAW in the past but love the earlier ORD departure. Seems almost like a fire sale $1K less than I paid 3 years ago.

hugolover Jun 16, 2018 9:01 am

Raffles wrote on his blog that LO will take 4 “brand new” E90 as part of LCY launch. Why 4? And why brand new when the last lot were used in high density config from Azur.

marcoos Jun 17, 2018 10:51 am

The ex-Azul ones can't land at LCY, the four new ones will be in special configuration for steep aproaches.

hugolover Jun 17, 2018 11:37 am

And what about their own, factory fresh E90/5? I thought it was a matter of a software upgrade.

4 E90 for double daily. LUZ 4x weekly? Is that another political job like IEG? LH could never get LUZ to work and bmi are struggling with as small as ER3. 78 seats on a Dash 8 I think.

I do hope their monumental expansion redeems itself. There’s a lot of empty seats flying around on LO flights and more and more capacity for routes with rather fledging business cases seems a big risk. Only a few years ago Tusk couldn’t even give it away, and he would sell Babcia. Now it’s a magical success like Muhammad’s carpet.

marcoos Jun 17, 2018 2:00 pm

Not an Embraer specialist, but, from what I'm told, E195s can't do LCY, (some?) E190s can. So, if they're serious about LCY, it makes sense to have them. These are the first E190s in LOT's fleet.

IEG is paid for by the provincial administration, so even an empty Q400 flying from Warsaw to "Zielona Góra" (in quotes, because it's seriously far away from the actual ZG) is a plus for LOT (and a minus for the taxpayers, but nobody seems to care). Not sure about how LUZ works.


I do hope their monumental expansion redeems itself
I'm expecting a massive flop sooner or later.

GBM.flights Jul 10, 2018 10:45 am

Per arlineroute:
TRN - guess it's a ski route

LOT Polish Airlines in winter 2018/19 season plans to resume Katowice – Turin service as seasonal route, previously served until October 2012. From 29DEC18, the Star Alliance member’s 737-800 aircraft will operate this route once a week. From the same date, the airline will also offer weekly Warsaw – Turin service.

Katowice – Turin eff 29DEC18 1 weekly (Service resumption since October 2012)
LO303 KTW1530 – 1730TRN 738 6
LO304 TRN1240 – 1440KTW 738 6

Warsaw – Turin eff 29DEC18 1 weekly
LO301 WAW0930 – 1150TRN 738 6
LO302 TRN1810 – 2040WAW 738 6
and BZG-IEV

LOT Polish Airlines next month introduces additional regional service to Ukraine, as the airline opened reservation for Bydgoszcz – Kiev Zhulyany route. From 03AUG18, Embraer E170/175 aircraft will operate this route twice a week.

LO737 BZG0510 – 0800IEV EQV 15
LO738 IEV2340 – 0040+1BZG EQV 47

marcoos Jul 10, 2018 1:49 pm

TRN is also useful for all the people from the Fiat factory nearby going to/from their corporate HQ.

AlicorporateUK Jul 10, 2018 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by GBM.flights (Post 29958804)
TRN - guess it's a ski route

Not entirely. There are several Italian businesses in the Bielsko-Biała area - FIAT amongst those (as also marcoos mentioned) but also Ferrero, headquartered in Turin yet with a pretty solid presence in Poland (corporate offices in Warsaw virtually next door to TVN plus a large manufacturing plant in Belsk-Duży). LOT used to operate KTW-TRN back in the days.

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yurtripper Jul 11, 2018 9:39 am


Originally Posted by AlicorporateUK (Post 29959524)


Not entirely. There are several Italian businesses in the Bielsko-Biała area - FIAT amongst those (as also marcoos mentioned) but also Ferrero, headquartered in Turin yet with a pretty solid presence in Poland (corporate offices in Warsaw virtually next door to TVN plus a large manufacturing plant in Belsk-Duży). LOT used to operate KTW-TRN back in the days.

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True but an ad for it appeared in my browser yesterday and they were certainly promoting it as a ski route (all white background with animation of someone skiing down the slopes) :)

The route was announced a couple of months ago anyway.

AlicorporateUK Jul 11, 2018 10:37 am


Originally Posted by yurtripper (Post 29962414)
True but an ad for it appeared in my browser yesterday and they were certainly promoting it as a ski route (all white background with animation of someone skiing down the slopes)

...and I suspect that the limited schedule/frequency don’t ‘help’ [towards the business segment] either :)

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GBM.flights Jul 13, 2018 4:35 am


Originally Posted by AlicorporateUK (Post 29962638)


...and I suspect that the limited schedule/frequency don’t ‘help’ [towards the business segment] either :)

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That was my point as well. a 1 weekly flight on Saturday is hardly Biz segment material.


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