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All LH A330 will lose F cabin: MUC in Winter 2016/17, FRA starting Summer 2018

All LH A330 will lose F cabin: MUC in Winter 2016/17, FRA starting Summer 2018

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Old Apr 25, 17, 9:27 am
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I usually suggest to avoid bulkheads in LH C. In the past two months I took the F-less A330 4 times, sitting in 3C, 5C, 10K and 4C.

Try to get a window/aisle (AC or HK) in row 3 or 4. Row 5 you get disturbed by the light in the galley and some noise, row 10 you have some HVAC noise from a blower.

The footsie /\ seats (DG) now have a larger/better divider, which is about the size of a legal/A4 sized sheet. I have not tested those.
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Old Jun 4, 17, 8:09 am
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LH removing F from FRA-based A330s?

I've been searching randomly for First Class flights, and to me it seems like Lufthansa is not selling F from Frankfurt on the A330s after 13 Jan 2018. It includes these routes:

FRA-JED/ADD
FRA-KWI
FRA-DOH
FRA-LAD

Anyone knows why? I thought the removal of F on the A330s was only supposed to happen on the MUC-based ones?

The Expertflyer seat map for FRA-JED looks like this from 14 Jan 2018 onwards:
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Old Jun 5, 17, 2:40 am
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Not selling F doesn't equate to removing F from an aircraft type?
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Old Jun 6, 17, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Not selling F doesn't equate to removing F from an aircraft type?
But that is basically all A330 destinations from FRA. And since LH has already announced that they are removing F from all A330s based at MUC...
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Old Jun 6, 17, 11:49 pm
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Originally Posted by alexanderc View Post
But that is basically all A330 destinations from FRA. And since LH has already announced that they are removing F from all A330s based at MUC...
While those routes are not all the 330 destinations, the others I've checked (like DFW, DTW) show the same fate... So this might indeed be a very sad indication...
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Old Jun 7, 17, 10:11 am
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LH is still selling F seats to RUH, which is served by A333 !!
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Old Jun 7, 17, 1:11 pm
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LH is still selling F seats to RUH, which is served by A333 !!
also not showing F next January but 333
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Old Jun 10, 17, 5:56 am
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that would be terrible news indeed
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Old Jun 10, 17, 2:03 pm
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This would be very sad news indeed, if true. I love LH F; while it's not always amazing, it's so, so much better than J.
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I think before LH management decide to remove F cabin on the A333 let them first have a decent business class hard product
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Old Jun 14, 17, 7:41 am
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Oh well, the LH lurkers confirmed it. Bye bye F in A330s. 😭😞😢
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Old Jun 17, 17, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Oh well, the LH lurkers confirmed it. Bye bye F in A330s. ������


this will make upgrading on LH near impossible. 748s and 388s are really tough ... the 330s were so much easier.

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Old Jun 17, 17, 9:11 am
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this will make upgrading on LH near impossible. 748s and 788s are really tough ... the 330s were so much easier.
Yes, upgrading to F on a LH 788 is indeed tough...

Seriously, plane type doesn't impact your chances of upgrading to F as all LH planes with F have 8 seats up front. It's the route that makes it harder or easier.
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Old Jun 17, 17, 10:53 am
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this will make upgrading on LH near impossible. 748s and 788s are really tough ... the 330s were so much easier.
I guess management would be happy to have this confirmation that they are making the right decision.
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Old Jun 17, 17, 11:24 am
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Seriously, plane type doesn't impact your chances of upgrading to F as all LH planes with F have 8 seats up front. It's the route that makes it harder or easier.
Well, of course it does! The J/F ratio is much worse so your chances are much lower. If I look at my ability to clear a J --> F upgrade there is a huge difference between the 330s and the 748/388.

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I guess management would be happy to have this confirmation that they are making the right decision.
That depends ... they might no longer get my full fare refundable J ticket if I can no longer upgrade to F ... is that a good decision? Not so sure. Quite a few pax on last minute expensive business class fares ... this is where LH earns their money. I am already refusing to fly their A350 ... more business for other *A carriers.
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