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Old Oct 8, 2018, 2:39 pm
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LH Destinations 28 OCT 19 - 30 MAR 19



EX FRA

North America
  • SFO
  • LAX
  • IAH
  • MIA
  • MEX
  • ORD
  • IAD
  • JFK
  • EWR
  • BOS

South America
  • BOG
  • EZE
  • GRU

Africa
  • JNB

Middle East
  • DMM
  • KWI

Asia
  • DEL
  • BOM
  • BLR
  • BKK
  • SIN
  • HKG
  • PEK
  • PVG
  • ICN
  • HND







EX MUC


North America
  • SFO
  • LAX
  • JFK
  • MIA

Africa
  • CPT

Asia
  • HKG
  • PEK
  • PVG




FULL LIST EX FRA WITH FLIGHT NR / AIRCRAFT TYPE
  • BLR LH754 B74H
  • BOG LH542 A346
  • BOM LH756 B74H (ENDING 23.12.2018)
  • BOS LH422 A346
  • DEL LH760 A388
  • DMM LH624 A346
  • EWR LH402 B74H
  • EZE LH510 B74H
  • GRU LH506 B74H
  • HKG LH796 B74H
  • HND LH716 B74H
  • IAD LH418 B74H
  • IAH LH440 A388
  • JFK LH404 A346
  • JFK LH400 B74H
  • JNB LH572 B74H
  • KWI LH624 A346
  • LAX LH456 A388
  • MEX LH498 B74H
  • MIA LH462 A346
  • ORD LH430 B74H
  • PEK LH720 B74H
  • PVG LH728 B74H
  • SFO LH454 A346
  • SFO LH454 A380 (18DEC18 - 23DEC18)
  • SFO LH454 B748 (05JAN19 - 08JAN19)
  • SIN LH778 A388

FULL LIST EX MUC WITH FLIGHT NR / AIRCRAFT TYPE
  • CPT LH574 A346
  • HKG LH730 A388
  • JFK LH410 A346
  • LAX LH452 A346
  • MEX LH520 A346
  • MIA LH460 A388
  • PVG LH726 A346
  • SFO LH458 A388







LH Destinations 31 MAR 19 - 12 OCT 19



EX FRA

North America
  • IAH
  • SFO
  • MIA
  • JFK
  • LAX
  • ORD
  • BOS
  • IAD
  • EWR
  • DTW
  • SAN (First class sold as business)

South America
  • BOG
  • MEX
  • EZE
  • GRU

Africa
  • JNB

Asia
  • HKG
  • SIN
  • DEL
  • PVG
  • BLR
  • PEK
  • HND







EX MUC


North America
  • JFK
  • SFO
  • LAX
  • BOS
  • ORD
  • YVR

South America
  • MEX

Asia
  • PVG
  • PEK
  • HKG
  • HND






FULL LIST EX FRA WITH FLIGHT NR / AIRCRAFT TYPE
  • BLR LH754 B74H
  • BOG LH542 A346
  • BOS LH422 B74H
  • DEL LH760 A388
  • DTW LH442 A346
  • EWR LH402 B74H
  • EZE LH510 B74H
  • GRU LH506 B74H
  • HKG LH796 A346
  • HND LH716 B74H
  • IAD LH418 B74H
  • IAH LH440 A388
  • JFK LH400 A388
  • JFK LH404 B74H
  • JNB LH572 B74H
  • LAX LH450 B74H (04MAY19 - 12OCT19)
  • LAX LH456 B74H
  • MEX LH498 B74H
  • MIA LH462 A388
  • ORD LH430 B74H
  • ORD LH432 B74H
  • PEK LH720 B74H
  • PVG LH728 A388
  • SAN LH466 A346 (First class sold as business on day 167)
  • SFO LH454 A388
  • SIN LH778 A388

FULL LIST EX MUC WITH FLIGHT NR / AIRCRAFT TYPE
  • BOS LH424 A346
  • HKG LH730 A388
  • HND LH714 A346
  • JFK LH410 A346
  • LAX LH452 A388
  • MEX LH520 A346
  • ORD LH434 A346 (day x13)
  • PEK LH722 A388
  • PVG LH726 A346
  • SFO LH458 A346
  • YVR LH476 A346 (31MAY19 - 31JUL19)
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Old Dec 10, 2018, 1:03 pm
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I'm booked on MUC-BOS in May in A346 F FWIW, so looks like it comes back sometime in spring.
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Old Dec 11, 2018, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by callmedtop
I'm booked on MUC-BOS in May in A346 F FWIW, so looks like it comes back sometime in spring.
It will be a daily A346 from Mar 31 2019. JFK (daily), ORD (3x weekly) and MEX (3x weekly) out of the North American destinations will also get F back from next year's summer timetable on when MUC gets most of the A346s back from FRA.
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 10:30 pm
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I have been surveying F fares for a trip next spring, and wonder what others observations have been regarding LH's pricing practices. My trip is ORD-BCN and returning VCE-ORD. A restricted F ticket was pricing out at around 6k for the past 3 months (with only one blip up before it reset to 6k), but about 2 weeks ago the fare jumped 22% to 7.3k........ maybe I missed my window, maybe not. When the price flipped up, it was about 130 days until my departure date (which is not movable). Anyone have any experience/knowledge that if seats in F still go unsold that LH will drop the fare to sell the seats, and about how many days out from the departure date may they to try incentivize buyers into F.
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Brostman
I have been surveying F fares for a trip next spring, and wonder what others observations have been regarding LH's pricing practices. My trip is ORD-BCN and returning VCE-ORD. A restricted F ticket was pricing out at around 6k for the past 3 months (with only one blip up before it reset to 6k), but about 2 weeks ago the fare jumped 22% to 7.3k........ maybe I missed my window, maybe not. When the price flipped up, it was about 130 days until my departure date (which is not movable). Anyone have any experience/knowledge that if seats in F still go unsold that LH will drop the fare to sell the seats, and about how many days out from the departure date may they to try incentivize buyers into F.
unlike Y/C fares, there are much less buckets and fares in F so not too much variety in pricing. The cheap ones have an advance booking timeframe (depending on the market up to 60 days).

obviously, no way to guarantee but I would not count on cheaper fares and book now.
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by Brostman
I have been surveying F fares for a trip next spring, and wonder what others observations have been regarding LH's pricing practices. My trip is ORD-BCN and returning VCE-ORD. A restricted F ticket was pricing out at around 6k for the past 3 months (with only one blip up before it reset to 6k), but about 2 weeks ago the fare jumped 22% to 7.3k........ maybe I missed my window, maybe not. When the price flipped up, it was about 130 days until my departure date (which is not movable). Anyone have any experience/knowledge that if seats in F still go unsold that LH will drop the fare to sell the seats, and about how many days out from the departure date may they to try incentivize buyers into F.
Just my two cents, but I've noticed at the 14 day mark miles based F opens up if the cabin is undersold alot more than usual. I've done low level miles awards the last two years MIA-FRA in F it always opens up between 2 weeks and a day if F is undersold. ( I measure undersold as I get on the plane and there are still one or two seats visibly empty and speaking with some of the very few pax up there in addition to my miles tick I always find at least one more last minuet F upgrader. I found MIA-MUC with a fair amount of availability this year as well around the 2 weeks mark. I dont know if this translates into discounts at the rev ticket level though.
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by shadesofgrey1x
Just my two cents, but I've noticed at the 14 day mark miles based F opens up if the cabin is undersold alot more than usual. I've done low level miles awards the last two years MIA-FRA in F it always opens up between 2 weeks and a day if F is undersold. ( I measure undersold as I get on the plane and there are still one or two seats visibly empty and speaking with some of the very few pax up there in addition to my miles tick I always find at least one more last minuet F upgrader. I found MIA-MUC with a fair amount of availability this year as well around the 2 weeks mark. I dont know if this translates into discounts at the rev ticket level though.
ShadesofGrey.... thank you for your insights. My trip is part of my package with a cruise line that includes business class on transatlantic legs and I don't know if they would let me do my own air at the 2 week before departure date and still receive a credit for not using their air.... and Mrs B does not have the tolerance to roll the dice and hope we can snag a miles based F option (additionally, we would be using a *A award since most of my miles are tied up in UA's MP) Of course I would love to do F in the nose of 747-8 for ORD-FRA, but I will tough it out on the upper deck.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 5:44 am
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I am trying to book for me and my company CEO couple of trips from ORD to the middle east in F class during different times in the summer season (June-Sep) for every month a round trip for one week.

To my surprise LH has removed F cabin to all middle east destination (RUH and JED and DXB) during the summer schedule!

Is that correct or there is a problem with my booking engine?
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
I am trying to book for me and my company CEO couple of trips from ORD to the middle east in F class during different times in the summer season (June-Sep) for every month a round trip for one week.

To my surprise LH has removed F cabin to all middle east destination (RUH and JED and DXB) during the summer schedule!

Is that correct or there is a problem with my booking engine?
Highly doubt any issues with your ability to book, very much reduced F these days on LH
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
I am trying to book for me and my company CEO couple of trips from ORD to the middle east in F class during different times in the summer season (June-Sep) for every month a round trip for one week.

To my surprise LH has removed F cabin to all middle east destination (RUH and JED and DXB) during the summer schedule!
The wiki-post at the top of this thread confirms your suspicion that does not offer much F to the Middle East anymore. How about LX?
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by worldclubber
How about LX?
Good suggestion ^

Even though LX fly only to DXB and MCT.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
Good suggestion ^

Even though LX fly only to DXB and MCT.
Unfortunately, that‘s all the LH Group F we get to the Middle East now. But the connection DXB-ZRH-NorthAmerica is usually pretty good to many destinations, with just enough layover to freshen up and/or take a nap at the great FCL in E.
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Old Jan 30, 2019, 3:17 pm
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The wiki and chart above seem to be missing DTW-FRA as an F route. I rebooked my BOS-FRA award to DTW, was able to get 3 seats yesteday, and there's more open -- seems to have great availability most days. (Of course, now I have to get to Detroit. In the winter.) Is this a new F route? It's served by an A346.
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 2:31 am
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Spohr let out some details at a employee townhall meeting recently:

All A380 and B748 will retain F.

Current batch of A359 deliveries will not get F. The next batch that was ordered last week may get F, but that delivery schedule is post 2023. As A359 replace the A346 in MUC over the next few years, those routes will lose F. FRA will get A359s from the current deliveries beyond the A346 replacements and post 2023 for A343 replacement.

B789 will not get F.

50% (previously 66%) of longhaul will be offered with a F cabin.

New F is in planning, seats maybe based on the LX platform to get commonality. As part of this planning they are looking at a F cabin that only has 4 or 6 seats.
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Spohr let out some details at a employee townhall meeting...
Thank you very much for the summary.

Didn‘t feel like pressing the „like“ button, as I like F out of MUC.
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 3:26 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002

50% (previously 66%) of longhaul will be offered with a F cabin.
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Ouch..... that’s a significant F reduction
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