ermis177

i was not aware of a new system. i suppose Tyrolean is right if thats the case.

Richmond_Surrey

So far all booking classes are available, checked on ExpertFlyer. I will keep Y then and pay Ł15 for lounge access.

hugolover

The Plaza Premium lounge is really good in T2, so you shouldn't think you're missing out in terms of lounges, especially, if you were not going to bother to head to T2 Satellite for UA, SQ, or AC. For Ł15 its a good deal.

The LH Business lounge is nothing special. They don't even have real beer on tap. Just watered down lager rubbish and strangely bottles of Leffe. Must be an InBev thing.

chuck1

I have a UA ticket issued on 016 stock that has an LH segment IST-FRA.
It is a R fare on the trans-Atlantic (premium economy) which books into Q on the LH IST-FRA.
The system is offering an upgrade to business for $280.
This is what the LH flight looks like.
J8 C8 D8 Z7 P7 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9
Q9 V9 W0 S0 T9 L0 K0

That seems like a lot of money.
Are they offered on the day of departure at the airport?
If so, are they less expensive?

ISTFlyer

At Istanbul, sometimes yes, however I had received offers worth $70 ( max I've got was $100 ) for this route many times and rejected all then got op-up'ed at the gate ( in some occasions ). Depending on the date ( holiday season for DE or TR ) you might be op-up'ed if you hold *G status. This route is not a heavy SEN or HON route so the chances for an op-up are very high for non MM-*G

bearchemist

My data point on LH intra-Europe upgrade from economy to business class:

Booked a MUC-TPE return trip via CDG on BR, with MUC-CDG leg on LH (booking class Q). Used booking code to log into LH.com and saw cash upgrade option. At first the upgrade price was 60€, at the same time the revenue booking shows P class on the same flight. One week later price jumped up to 100€, revenue booking showed Z class. One more week after, upgrade required 140€ and the revenue booking showed D class.

Now here is the weird part: this morning the upgrade price went down to 60€ while the revenue booking has Z class available. Assuming I would get a new ticket in Z I paid for the upgrade, however the new booking is still P.

Maybe the upgrade price is the better clue for which J class one ends up into?

DC10

Hi,

Soon I will be flying from MUC to MAD, yesterday upgrade to Business Class was priced 110€, today price jumped to 160€. Can I expect the price would fall back down again?

Vixit

It changes up & down every day, it can even change several times in a day.

Vixit

I bought BRU-FRA-HEL return in Economy at € 500.

Fixed upgrade bid was initially displayed as € 60 per leg, but could not be booked. Called in - upgrade cost was actually € 200 per leg. Now it has risen to € 260 per leg, with more than 8 seats still for sale on each. Crazy.

Vixit

Data point update: I was booked BRU-FRA-HEL in Eco Classic S and HEL-MUC-BRU in Eco Classic H, cost € 500. There were plenty of Business seats available, but they were only sold as fare D at € 1,470 return.

Fixed upgrade cost was € 260 per sector. Bid upgrade started at € 80 per leg and I offered € 90 for FRA-HEL and HEL-MUC respectively. Both cleared three days before departure into fare P.

Marcin83

Is it still valid (old booking class -> new cash-upgraded booking class)?

W, S, T, L, K -> P
H, Q, V -> Z
B, M, U -> D
and Y -> C

Does anyone have the P.E. "letters"? (Cash upgrades to and from P.E.) ?

Thanks

PAX_fips

It depends :-) My latest cash-upgrade went from N to Z, but also had N to D earlier this year ("to D" is typically more expensive and only when Z0, e.g. very close to ETD)
Never did "to PE".

oliver2002

It seems both myoffer and the cash upgrades take the first available BK that is still open...

CMK10

I have a NYC-OSL roundtrip bought on Orbitz. I went onto the LH website and found:

- JFK-FRA: Upgrade to PE for $350, Upgrade to Business for $900
- FRA-OSL: Upgrade to Business for $150

I passed

ermis177

These are the fixed prices. If you can bid you will see the prices to be lower. I always bid the lowest amount for Y to PE and so far I have been successful all the times apart from 1. But I will agree with you. $350 to PE and $900 to C are uncompetitive prices.