New European Economy Fares [HBO/light topics merged]
#46
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In fact, LX already has become like them with this enhancement, with the difference being a free cup of water (or some kind of snack and drink on longer European routes.. )
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If that would be the case than you would have chaos with baggage on every LCC flight. Which isn't the case. People do pay for luggage and don't carry on their household goods and the kitchen sink.
#48
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My point is that even if you pay the high fare you will have some inconvenient issues due to this "improvement.
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Not really more packed than mainline. The main difference is the higher seating density on LCCs which leads to stress on the bins.
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You can have that any day of the year with a KONT J Ticket ex FRA.
If you arrive as one of the last pax being driven from the FCT you will usually find all the bins in the first rows fully occupied (along with all others).
I even sometime have to argue that my luggage is not offloaded into the luggage compartment downstairs. #dieZitroneistnochnichtausgequetscht
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ahh... you forgot to mention the missing wadrobe in C . Its been nearly 5 years that they ripped those out with NEK.
Last week on an TP A319 (with old style NKS LH had till 2003) some ding dong sitting three rows behind me decided his guitar should be stored in the overhead bin in my row. And of course protested loudly when I pretended not to see it and shove my trolley in the free space . You should have seen how one can quickly come forward.
Seriously though I always board last (not because I'm driven from the FCT, but because I avoid sitting on aircraft longer than required) and anyone occupying the OH bin and not seated in my row has a problem with me. Rarely do I encounter resistance.
Last week on an TP A319 (with old style NKS LH had till 2003) some ding dong sitting three rows behind me decided his guitar should be stored in the overhead bin in my row. And of course protested loudly when I pretended not to see it and shove my trolley in the free space . You should have seen how one can quickly come forward.
Seriously though I always board last (not because I'm driven from the FCT, but because I avoid sitting on aircraft longer than required) and anyone occupying the OH bin and not seated in my row has a problem with me. Rarely do I encounter resistance.
#52
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http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamili...20family/a320/
So, according to Airbus, LX is now a proper low-cost or charter flight operator..
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Yep, LX managed to squeeze in the A32S max config before FR got its 737-8 MAX200. Spohr is so happy about it he told NZZ it will become the standard on LH Group. Yay for Swiss innovation!
Seriously though the OH bins in the A32S bought in the 2009- batch hold more bags than the 1990-2005 series. Boeings new OH bins in the current signature interior hold the proverbial US kitchen sink *3 already, and I would suspect the bins on the A32S neo series coming soon will also play catch up.
Seriously though the OH bins in the A32S bought in the 2009- batch hold more bags than the 1990-2005 series. Boeings new OH bins in the current signature interior hold the proverbial US kitchen sink *3 already, and I would suspect the bins on the A32S neo series coming soon will also play catch up.
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ahh... you forgot to mention the missing wadrobe in C . Its been nearly 5 years that they ripped those out with NEK.
Last week on an TP A319 (with old style NKS LH had till 2003) some ding dong sitting three rows behind me decided his guitar should be stored in the overhead bin in my row. And of course protested loudly when I pretended not to see it and shove my trolley in the free space . You should have seen how one can quickly come forward.
Seriously though I always board last (not because I'm driven from the FCT, but because I avoid sitting on aircraft longer than required) and anyone occupying the OH bin and not seated in my row has a problem with me. Rarely do I encounter resistance.
Last week on an TP A319 (with old style NKS LH had till 2003) some ding dong sitting three rows behind me decided his guitar should be stored in the overhead bin in my row. And of course protested loudly when I pretended not to see it and shove my trolley in the free space . You should have seen how one can quickly come forward.
Seriously though I always board last (not because I'm driven from the FCT, but because I avoid sitting on aircraft longer than required) and anyone occupying the OH bin and not seated in my row has a problem with me. Rarely do I encounter resistance.
My bag usually ends up in the middle seat next to me in row two, as everything else is taken.
(Never, ever, have I complained about the coat hanging debacle)
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It will get interesting (and maybe ugly..) when people with perfectly decent sized carry-on luggage (but which don't fit into the way-too-small metal bins used at ZRH and many more airports by LX) are forced to check their carry-on against a big fee by LX..
#56
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Maybe those can be made adjustable too? In order to maintain maximum discomfort for the stinkin' Y passenger? After all passengers need to be punished for buying what the airlines advertise so aggressively.
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Does anybody have experience with the flex tickets? I want to be flexible for the return flight of a trip, as its relatively far ahead in the future. But of course now that far ahead return leg is in K class. Do I understand correctly that they call a K flex ticket flexible just because rebooking to another K is free?
If yes I will just buy two oneways, however stupid that is.
If yes I will just buy two oneways, however stupid that is.
#58
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I read somewhere that LH was considering(?) to allow same-day re-bookings to an earlier flight free of charge for flex tickets regardless of the availability of the same fare class.
Can someone confirm this? This would actually be an incentive to book flex on a later flight, and I've two flights next week where I'll test this, but I'd like to be prepared...
HTB.
Can someone confirm this? This would actually be an incentive to book flex on a later flight, and I've two flights next week where I'll test this, but I'd like to be prepared...
HTB.
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Nope thats an urban legend. Right now if you buy a KFLEX you're pretty much doomed.
We mentioned that at the Kamingespraech and even Garnardt accepted that L/T/K-flex made no sense (just like Y/B/M - light didnt't make any sense either). He promised to look into that.
We mentioned that at the Kamingespraech and even Garnardt accepted that L/T/K-flex made no sense (just like Y/B/M - light didnt't make any sense either). He promised to look into that.
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Am I missing something?
I am just checking one-way fare from LHR to VIE. I can only see fares starting from EUR 500. Its nothing surprising. Even the LIGHT fare costs you almost EUR 500.
Starting in summer 2015, Austrian Airlines, Lufthansa and SWISS are introducing a new price concept on European routes: the new Economy Class fares, Light, Classic and Flex, will be available in each booking class.