Reviews/Feedback on LH Premium Economy flights?
Feb 15, 2015, 11:21 am
#16
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 17
LH Premium Economy - Worth It?
Hi
Has anyone recently flown on LH in PE? I am booked on FRA-JNB in Dec., and being 6'4'' the extra 7" of legroom is really tempting. However, when comparing the LH PE to AF PE, it seems like a much inferior product. I'm not sure whether it is worth the extra money to upgrade.
Thoughts?
Has anyone recently flown on LH in PE? I am booked on FRA-JNB in Dec., and being 6'4'' the extra 7" of legroom is really tempting. However, when comparing the LH PE to AF PE, it seems like a much inferior product. I'm not sure whether it is worth the extra money to upgrade.
Thoughts?
Feb 15, 2015, 11:25 am
#17
Join Date: Aug 2008
Programs: A3 *G, BA silver, LH, UA
Posts: 518
Hi
Has anyone recently flown on LH in PE? I am booked on FRA-JNB in Dec., and being 6'4'' the extra 7" of legroom is really tempting. However, when comparing the LH PE to AF PE, it seems like a much inferior product. I'm not sure whether it is worth the extra money to upgrade.
Thoughts?
Has anyone recently flown on LH in PE? I am booked on FRA-JNB in Dec., and being 6'4'' the extra 7" of legroom is really tempting. However, when comparing the LH PE to AF PE, it seems like a much inferior product. I'm not sure whether it is worth the extra money to upgrade.
Thoughts?
Feb 15, 2015, 3:56 pm
#18
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BTS/VIE
Programs: LH MM**, HH Silver
Posts: 2,282
Writing this @FL370 in an LH A346 sitting in 25K exit row Y+ seat. Am 190cm tall, roughly 6'3".
Less legroom than plain old Y exit row due to the hard bulk head. Can't really stretch my legs. The leg rest is not of much use for me either. Irony- if you want to stretch your legs, do not take the exit row...
Other than that no complains. The seat is decent, the wide arm rest makes a big difference. Got a fast track for immigration, too. Amenity kit with bare essentials, but sufficient.
Less legroom than plain old Y exit row due to the hard bulk head. Can't really stretch my legs. The leg rest is not of much use for me either. Irony- if you want to stretch your legs, do not take the exit row...
Other than that no complains. The seat is decent, the wide arm rest makes a big difference. Got a fast track for immigration, too. Amenity kit with bare essentials, but sufficient.
Last edited by whiskey_sk; Feb 15, 2015 at 4:10 pm Reason: typo
Feb 16, 2015, 12:29 am
#19
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: AGH
Posts: 5,975
Y+ was very different to the standard eco experience. It is not just extra legroom like UA+. I tis a different product with a very nice seat, better food and service in general. Made the flight very enjoyable and if it is reasonable priced it is a no brainer in my opinion.
Feb 16, 2015, 3:19 pm
#20
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: EDI, CGN, NYC
Programs: LH-SEN, DL-Platinum
Posts: 973
I'd be very grateful if someone would venture a comparison between an exit row seat on a 747 or A330/340 compared to Y+. While I still have SEN status, that's the relevant comparison for me. I'm not sure it's worth the money to upgrade over 32A on the 747, for example.
Feb 16, 2015, 3:43 pm
#21
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BSL/FRA or PHL
Programs: LH Miles and More, DL SkyMiles, Bonvoy, Hilton
Posts: 2,335
--Noticeably wider seat with own armrest.
--Noticeably more recline in seat.
--In seat power (with a power supply that can handle at least an 85W Apple supply.
--Nice tray table for eating/working/playing (note you will have to recline yourself somewhat if you want to use a laptop at your seat when the person in front of you is fully reclined)
--Same Y food, but served in ceramic instead of plastic.
32A advantages:
--Cheap for SEN
--Window with aisle access (though sometimes the pax sprawled out in 31B will make that difficult)
--more leg room
My humble opinion: the value is there in Y+ vs. "32A" and is worth the extra cost if your budget is not absolutely restricted.
Feb 16, 2015, 3:51 pm
#22
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BTS/VIE
Programs: LH MM**, HH Silver
Posts: 2,282
- in general, an exit row in plain Y is giving you significantly more legroom than any Y+ seat on a 346.
- on a 744 the seat to be is 33A/K in plain Y.
- on a 748 the exit row is in Y+ section, however way better than its 346 counterpart - on 748 you get all the Y+ benefits plus exit row legroom galore, since there is no bulkhead as on a 346.
Feb 16, 2015, 4:01 pm
#23
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BSL/FRA or PHL
Programs: LH Miles and More, DL SkyMiles, Bonvoy, Hilton
Posts: 2,335
honestly, I couldn't care less about chinaware, it's legroom I crave, and my observations are as follows:
- in general, an exit row in plain Y is giving you significantly more legroom than any Y+ seat on a 346.
- on a 744 the seat to be is 33A/K in plain Y.
- on a 748 the exit row is in Y+ section, however way better than its 346 counterpart - on 748 you get all the Y+ benefits plus exit row legroom galore, since there is no bulkhead as on a 346.
- in general, an exit row in plain Y is giving you significantly more legroom than any Y+ seat on a 346.
- on a 744 the seat to be is 33A/K in plain Y.
- on a 748 the exit row is in Y+ section, however way better than its 346 counterpart - on 748 you get all the Y+ benefits plus exit row legroom galore, since there is no bulkhead as on a 346.
I can see how the exit row leg room could trump some width and recline for taller travelers.
The exit rows are nice for stretching the legs, though.
Sorry, but I have not had the pleasure of Y+ on a 346 (yet).
Feb 16, 2015, 11:09 pm
#24
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BTS/VIE
Programs: LH MM**, HH Silver
Posts: 2,282
I am tall and I am thin, of an enviable height, and I've been known to be quite handsome...
...from a certain angle and in a certain light
You most definitely have a point with the recline, it's really a class apart from plain Y ^
Feb 17, 2015, 12:23 am
#25
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: BER
Programs: LH FTL
Posts: 278
Feb 17, 2015, 12:37 am
#26
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
A bit expensive for the extra room and a few more miles.... But I must admit, still a bit of a steal compared to the €3.700 they want for C.
Feb 17, 2015, 12:45 am
#27
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BTS/VIE
Programs: LH MM**, HH Silver
Posts: 2,282
Have you checked meilenschnaeppchen, too? IIRC there was availability to Japan every month over the past year or so.
Feb 17, 2015, 1:05 am
#28
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
And I still pay the €500 in taxes.
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Feb 17, 2015, 1:14 am
#29
Senior Moderator, Moderator: Community Buzz and Ambassador: Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 150km from MAN
Programs: LH SEN** HH Diamond
Posts: 29,512
What dates are you looking at? I can find €2,830 in C (Z) AMS-HND next week though Y+ is rather expensive at €2,693. Also try booking on NH's website. They've lowered fuel surcharges even on flights operated by LH.
Feb 17, 2015, 1:30 am
#30
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,168
Coming back to Y vs Y+:
Power: the new and retrofitted aircraft have power in plain Y too.
Seat spacing: what bugs me in Y is that bulkhead and exit row seating (which often mean more leg/personal space) have the table/tray stored in the armrest, making it immovable. So you are sort restricted at the hips. I Y+ that is not a problem.
I would buy the K fare and bid for Y+(N) via plusgrade with 200€. @:-)
Power: the new and retrofitted aircraft have power in plain Y too.
Seat spacing: what bugs me in Y is that bulkhead and exit row seating (which often mean more leg/personal space) have the table/tray stored in the armrest, making it immovable. So you are sort restricted at the hips. I Y+ that is not a problem.
However nice Y+ is.... I was looking for a quick trip to Japan on LH. €600 for Y (or in fact K) vs €1.500 for Y+.
