Longhaul EuroWings will start ops in Winter2015-16

Old Feb 25, 19, 2:54 am
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How do wet-leases fit in with EU-US open skies? Does it make a difference if the lessee is EU or non-EU based?
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Old Feb 25, 19, 3:20 am
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Non-EU airlines need to be approved by both sides, LOT recently asked if Aerolinas Argentinas was allowed. Ad-hoc charters usually get approved quickly.
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Old Mar 5, 19, 4:55 am
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https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...1-9ac11e3a8faf

EW will start operating longhaul flights ex FRA soon. The new LH route MUC-BKK will also be operated by EW...
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Old Mar 11, 19, 8:26 am
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More changes to longhaul wings: P2P LoCo is not really working, LH Group sales will take over the sales and the SunExpress operated A332s will become 3 class like the SN operated A343 and A330s.

https://www.aerotelegraph.com/das-st...fuer-eurowings
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Old Mar 11, 19, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
More changes to longhaul wings: P2P LoCo is not really working, LH Group sales will take over the sales and the SunExpress operated A332s will become 3 class like the SN operated A343 and A330s.

https://www.aerotelegraph.com/das-st...fuer-eurowings
good riddance. Do they have ANY strategy here? Now they are adding PE and C? And they want to go after leisure markets? This works for WK, but this is Switzerland ... for Germany .... I don't think so.
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Old Mar 12, 19, 4:25 am
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good riddance. Do they have ANY strategy here? Now they are adding PE and C? And they want to go after leisure markets? This works for WK, but this is Switzerland ... for Germany .... I don't think so.
If they are reasonably small, it should work I expect. There are people who want to fly to a common leisure destination, but still are willing to pay something extra not to need two days of adjusting after arrival...
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Old Mar 12, 19, 4:45 am
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk View Post
If they are reasonably small, it should work I expect. There are people who want to fly to a common leisure destination, but still are willing to pay something extra not to need two days of adjusting after arrival...
But then you also have the people who want to fly to a LH destination, realize that the LH flight is operated by Eurowings/Sun Express and decide to book on another airline. I have yet to set foot on either Eurowings or Sunexpress voluntarily and I'm not planning to do so anytime soon. (I was once on a Sunexpress involuntarily instead of the originial EDW flight out of AYT to ZRH).

In my opinion Edelweiss did it exactly right. They are a great airline, managed to offer a great product for a reasonable price for leisure travelers. I used to fly them all the time and to date I have still flown them more (segment wise) than LX! But even EDW is struggling now with its current expansion and the addition of the not so amazing new A320s without IFE or cabin dividers and smaller galley. I would still be flying EDW frequently if they would give miles to *A partners.

The difference imo is that EDW never tried to be a LCC and never was one. Because let's be honest, the only LCC thing about Eurowings is the service (not necessarily in C) and the customer support. Everything else is done like a normal airline which undermines the whole point of being a LCC.
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Old Jun 24, 19, 3:53 am
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Today they announced the death of Longhaul Wings. Curious what they will do with the services from DUS.
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Old Jun 24, 19, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Today they announced the death of Longhaul Wings. Curious what they will do with the services from DUS.
[Dreaming on]
Longhaul full service flights wih LH or maybe even SN out of DUS
[Dreaming off]
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Old Jun 24, 19, 9:55 am
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[Dreaming on]
Longhaul full service flights wih LH or maybe even SN out of DUS
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Longhaul LH-service is as likely, as the return of PA on DUS-THF!
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Old Jun 24, 19, 11:25 am
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So that proves that the long haul low cost concept doesn't work. It's funny, because I thought EW seemed to be successful. But obviously not.
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Old Jun 24, 19, 2:44 pm
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Well I guess the longhaul planes must go somewhere, would be a shame giving up on all the Eurowings routes? Maybe they will buy Condor and transfer them to them or maybe they will in fact move them to LH. What an unexptected but pleasant surprise that would be!
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Old Jun 25, 19, 2:16 am
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EW longhaul, although pretty expensive seems to have done the job: AB is gone and DE is really struggling, about to be taken over by some investor.
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Old Jun 25, 19, 2:26 am
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EW longhaul, although pretty expensive seems to have done the job: AB is gone and DE is really struggling, about to be taken over by some investor.
Sad but true... Still hope DY will not go belly up...
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