VC Pilots Strike 02-04 APR 2014 [discussion & info wiki]
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Mar 26, 14, 9:01 pm
#61
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by LufthansaFlyer
No I haven't driven a bus, but my point is that given 2 sets of emergencies, the aircraft is at far greater risk for disaster than a bus..
..since for an aircraft there will be far fewer options to land safely than for a bus to pull over safely.
I'm not saying that he bus driver's job is marginalized, it's just IMHO the aircraft pilot needs to have more in his 'skillset' toolbox.
My acid test for this would be that I would much rather be on a bus that is out of control or suffering an emergency (flat tire, engine fire, etc) than on an aircraft at 38k feet over the atlantic when the engines go quiet....I think if anyone would rather be on a plane vs. a bus on a given emergency is asking for far more trouble! 
Mar 26, 14, 9:37 pm
#62
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Originally Posted by weero
This holds neither true statistically nor in a per case scenario. The chance that the bus will crash if a tyre blows, is a lot larger than for an engine out (or a tyre burst to be pedantic) in an airliner.
That assumes that the vehicle is maneuverable normally which is the case we are not presuming.
I wouldn't know - I was allowed at the helm of two jets and one bus and failed miserably to only execute the simplest actions.
I would definitely take the plane. I have been in two engine outs (one of two in each case) incidents on planes and the pilots handled it gracefully. I'd not want to be in a road vehicle at high speeds when a tyre failure occurs.
That assumes that the vehicle is maneuverable normally which is the case we are not presuming.
I wouldn't know - I was allowed at the helm of two jets and one bus and failed miserably to only execute the simplest actions.
I would definitely take the plane. I have been in two engine outs (one of two in each case) incidents on planes and the pilots handled it gracefully. I'd not want to be in a road vehicle at high speeds when a tyre failure occurs.
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Mar 27, 14, 5:46 pm
#64
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PDX
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
The strike will be announced 48h in advance and LH will adjust the schedule. Then you proceed as per the comments in this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...interview.html
Worrying now makes no sense.
Worrying now makes no sense.
Being potentially impacted by the strike(s) with upcoming LH flights on Sunday and receiving absolutely NO help from the LH SEN desk nor the Twitter CS for either LH/LH-USA teams, I can only say that we're a tad concerned here...
Mar 27, 14, 7:07 pm
#65
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Originally Posted by coastalguy
Being potentially impacted by the strike(s) with upcoming LH flights on Sunday and receiving absolutely NO help from the LH SEN desk nor the Twitter CS for either LH/LH-USA teams, I can only say that we're a tad concerned here...
And also nothing you could expect LH to be doing since everything is flying as scheduled (the airport strikes are totally unrelated here, and LH handled those rather efficiently).
Mar 28, 14, 4:21 am
#66
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Originally Posted by coastalguy
Surely not your intent, but the thread reference makes little sense. There is still no transcript for that chat according to the last post in the thread?
Mar 28, 14, 7:18 am
#67
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Why don't we just shut the entire country down??? I am extremely annoyed...
http://www.vcockpit.de/presse/presse...ockpit-vc.html
LH pilots go on strike between April 2 12 a.m. and April 4 11:59 p.m.
http://www.vcockpit.de/presse/presse...ockpit-vc.html
LH pilots go on strike between April 2 12 a.m. and April 4 11:59 p.m.
Mar 28, 14, 7:36 am
#68
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Originally Posted by cas_de
Why don't we just shut the entire country down??? I am extremely annoyed...
http://www.vcockpit.de/presse/presse...ockpit-vc.html
LH pilots go on strike between April 2 12 a.m. and April 4 11:59 p.m.
http://www.vcockpit.de/presse/presse...ockpit-vc.html
LH pilots go on strike between April 2 12 a.m. and April 4 11:59 p.m.
I am flying on the 2nd but I still can't find the rebooking online option. Does that mean that the strike is not really confirmed yet?
Mar 28, 14, 7:40 am
#69
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Originally Posted by mashlakito
They go on strike for 2 days??? Wow!
I am flying on the 2nd but I still can't find the rebooking online option. Does that mean that the strike is not really confirmed yet?
I am flying on the 2nd but I still can't find the rebooking online option. Does that mean that the strike is not really confirmed yet?
April 2, 3 and 4
The link I did post shows the press release of the VC union. So for now it seems to be "confirmed" unless LH and VC come to an agreement before April 2.
Mar 28, 14, 8:27 am
#74
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Looks like LH has already zeroed out all booking classes on all their Wednesday' to Friday's flights next week so they do not think that they'll for sure manage to come to an agreement with VC before the strike.
Mar 28, 14, 8:27 am
#75
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Lufthansa will probably shortly announce the flights which will be canceled and which will be not affected. As soon the flight you are booked on is canceled you will have various options to change your flight online or via phone. It is not possible to to do this without the actual cancellation.
1) If possible (only for intra-German flighst) you can exchange your ticket for a train ticket (this can be done online on the LH website and you can print out the train ticket at home)
2) You can cancel your flight and get your money back
3) You can rebook once your flight for free
1) If possible (only for intra-German flighst) you can exchange your ticket for a train ticket (this can be done online on the LH website and you can print out the train ticket at home)
2) You can cancel your flight and get your money back
3) You can rebook once your flight for free
