Lufthansa to spin off Miles&More into a new independent company with WorldShop
#76
Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: BAEC, M&L, Bonvoy
Posts: 1,339
Miles & More has new operator [Miles & More GmbH announced]
Just received this email today
Today, we would like to tell you about some organizational changes regarding the Miles & More program, that will give us the opportunity to make the program even more attractive for you in the future.
Miles & More GmbH, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lufthansa German Airlines, will now assume responsibility for all program related topics to earning and redeeming of award miles. Lufthansa German Airlines will remain responsible, as at present, for topics regarding frequent flyer status and the earning of status miles. For you, as a member, this is purely a matter of an internal realignment of responsibilities within the Lufthansa Group.
The membership Terms & Conditions have already been updated to include the role of Miles & More GmbH as an additional program operator. You can view these at any time online at
miles-and-more.com/conditions as well as our FAQs (frequently asked questions) which will give you more detailed information about this change.
We thank you for your continued loyalty to Miles & More.
Sincerely,
The Miles & More Team
Now question is what will be next step for M&M and how will LH treat M&M members in the future? It has been not so good lately
Maybe M&M will start treating its member better, like the Fashion show trip to Paris
Today, we would like to tell you about some organizational changes regarding the Miles & More program, that will give us the opportunity to make the program even more attractive for you in the future.
Miles & More GmbH, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lufthansa German Airlines, will now assume responsibility for all program related topics to earning and redeeming of award miles. Lufthansa German Airlines will remain responsible, as at present, for topics regarding frequent flyer status and the earning of status miles. For you, as a member, this is purely a matter of an internal realignment of responsibilities within the Lufthansa Group.
The membership Terms & Conditions have already been updated to include the role of Miles & More GmbH as an additional program operator. You can view these at any time online at
miles-and-more.com/conditions as well as our FAQs (frequently asked questions) which will give you more detailed information about this change.
We thank you for your continued loyalty to Miles & More.
Sincerely,
The Miles & More Team
Now question is what will be next step for M&M and how will LH treat M&M members in the future? It has been not so good lately
Maybe M&M will start treating its member better, like the Fashion show trip to Paris
#77
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BTS/VIE
Programs: LH MM**, HH Silver
Posts: 2,282
Miles & More GmbH announced
an email has just arrived, it seems M&M is from now on an official company.
Programme information: Miles & More now has an additional operator
Dear Mr whiskey_sk,
Today, we would like to tell you about some organisational changes regarding the Miles & More programme, that will give us the opportunity to make the programme even more attractive for you in the future.
Miles & More GmbH, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lufthansa German Airlines, will now assume responsibility for all programme related topics to earning and redeeming of award miles. Lufthansa German Airlines will remain responsible, as at present, for topics regarding frequent flyer status and the earning of status miles. For you, as a member, this is purely a matter of an internal realignment of responsibilities within the Lufthansa Group.
The membership Terms & Conditions have already been updated to include the role of Miles & More GmbH as an additional programme operator. You can view these at any time online at
miles-and-more.com/conditions as well as our FAQs (frequently asked questions) which will give you more detailed information about this change.
We thank you for your continued loyalty to Miles & More.
Yours sincerely,
The Miles & More Team
Dear Mr whiskey_sk,
Today, we would like to tell you about some organisational changes regarding the Miles & More programme, that will give us the opportunity to make the programme even more attractive for you in the future.
Miles & More GmbH, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lufthansa German Airlines, will now assume responsibility for all programme related topics to earning and redeeming of award miles. Lufthansa German Airlines will remain responsible, as at present, for topics regarding frequent flyer status and the earning of status miles. For you, as a member, this is purely a matter of an internal realignment of responsibilities within the Lufthansa Group.
The membership Terms & Conditions have already been updated to include the role of Miles & More GmbH as an additional programme operator. You can view these at any time online at
miles-and-more.com/conditions as well as our FAQs (frequently asked questions) which will give you more detailed information about this change.
We thank you for your continued loyalty to Miles & More.
Yours sincerely,
The Miles & More Team
#79
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New York and Vienna
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Our newsroom published a story about this earlier.
In addition to what I excerpted below, which gives the key details, Lufthansa is also moving WorldShop into the new subsidiary.
Lufthansa Spins Off Miles & More Frequent Flyer Program
In addition to what I excerpted below, which gives the key details, Lufthansa is also moving WorldShop into the new subsidiary.
Lufthansa Spins Off Miles & More Frequent Flyer Program
German flag carrier Lufthansa announced the formation of a separate company to manage the Miles & More frequent flyer program. The move was originally approved by shareholders at the company’s annual meeting in April of this year.
The new subsidiary, Miles & More GmbH, took over responsibility for managing award miles this week. Lufthansa, however, continues to be the responsible party for issues relating to status miles at the present time. The move allows Lufthansa to outsource the management and governance of the Miles & More program to the subsidiary....
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The new subsidiary, Miles & More GmbH, took over responsibility for managing award miles this week. Lufthansa, however, continues to be the responsible party for issues relating to status miles at the present time. The move allows Lufthansa to outsource the management and governance of the Miles & More program to the subsidiary....
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#82
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New England
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I feel like this change will lead to the two "companies" bouncing you back and forth when it comes to missing mileage requests so that they don't have to honor anything. They might also be able to stop awarding miles to other programs without breaking any alliance rules.
#84
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Posts: 6,913
I feel like this change will lead to the two "companies" bouncing you back and forth when it comes to missing mileage requests so that they don't have to honor anything. They might also be able to stop awarding miles to other programs without breaking any alliance rules.
#85
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Can you cite some? The only one I'm familiar with is Air Canada Aeroplan and that preceded the addition of fuel surcharges onto awards and massive inflation in the award chart. To be fair, M&M already has the former, and AC realigned similar to M&M's current chart.
#86
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#87
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: YVR
Posts: 2,120
I feel like this change will lead to the two "companies" bouncing you back and forth when it comes to missing mileage requests so that they don't have to honor anything. They might also be able to stop awarding miles to other programs without breaking any alliance rules.
#89
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: BOS
Posts: 519
airberlin's program is a separate company, although it was done so Etihad could own a majority of it (a way to sidestep EU rules on airline ownership). The program itself has only gotten better.
#90
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Then again when I see the new Select miles offers I cannot really imagine going anywhere else than M&M- I may even get a comped Hilton Gold membership!