Lufthansa to spin off Miles&More into a new independent company with WorldShop
Mar 13, 2014, 5:26 pm
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Could it not be that the whole thing might actually get better? I just say that because I simply don't think it can descend any lower. But they might just wake up and improve the programme as British Airways did with theirs. And there are still numerous (and sometimes fun) ways to pick up miles: newspapers and magazines, Payback, Swiss COOP Trophy stamps (stamp collecting just like in the good old days of petrol station coupons)... although it's odd that the Worldshop remains so utterly rubbish for collecting and spending. It's an insult to the intelligence of a primate.
Hasn't the economy class thing 'more closely reflecting the value of the ticket' been around for some time now?
Hasn't the economy class thing 'more closely reflecting the value of the ticket' been around for some time now?
Mar 13, 2014, 5:57 pm
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The good news is every 10 LH Y longhaul trips will qualify you for a toaster from the Worldshop...
Mar 14, 2014, 12:19 am
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If I recall the comments I heard last summer, it seems that M&M has realised that M&M is starting to loose its appeal to the Y traveller. When I asked, they said they will try to add more non flying earning options and try to simplify the redemption options. Killing/reducing/simplifying YQ was categorically ruled out, but the flat 18k for all taxes & fees on regional flights concept will probably be expanded to other regions. The YQ adjustment announced yesterday is a hint towards that too.@:-)
Mar 14, 2014, 1:30 am
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This sentence from the annual report 2013 however does not bode well for 2014 M&M economy class customers:
The next step for the frequent flyer programme will be to introduce a series of enhancements in 2014. The miles awarded in Economy Class will more closely reflect the value of the ticket purchased.
The next step for the frequent flyer programme will be to introduce a series of enhancements in 2014. The miles awarded in Economy Class will more closely reflect the value of the ticket purchased.
Mar 14, 2014, 2:59 am
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While I wish you are correct, I don't think so- this is changes "to be implemented in 2014"- and putting the program together with WorldShop seems to show where M&M is on the overall priorities of the company- unless suddenly suitcases and toasters are very strategic as they are over at Aeroplan.
Mar 14, 2014, 3:23 am
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While I wish you are correct, I don't think so- this is changes "to be implemented in 2014"- and putting the program together with WorldShop seems to show where M&M is on the overall priorities of the company- unless suddenly suitcases and toasters are very strategic as they are over at Aeroplan.
Mar 14, 2014, 8:26 am
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Regarding M&M European awards, I found them to be good value on certain one-day return trips booked less than 1 week in advance (rev tickets above 800 eur). I got 2 of these in 2013.
Mar 14, 2014, 9:06 pm
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The financial press is saying it is similar to both the Air Canada and the Air Berlin transactions. While I do agree they can often be wrong (the press)- and horribly misinformed- what I do find are a number of similarities between this spinoff and the Aeroplan operation. Merging the company with Worldshop will probably generate short-term income for Lufthansa- longer term though I don't know how well it can work out for the customers of Miles&More- it certainly goes a very long way however in explaining why mileage earnings have been reduced as heavily as they have been.
Mar 14, 2014, 9:11 pm
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Mar 18, 2014, 12:23 am
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On the contrary, I expect the spin off will result in more and even generous earning opportunities (CC and other financial products) and a change to a greater redemption easiness.
Mar 18, 2014, 12:50 am
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Lufthansa to spin off Miles&More into a new independent company with WorldShop
I agree with the earning. And will agree to (non-flying) redemption.
But flying redemption I don't see it.
Maybe during the next recession.
But flying redemption I don't see it.
Maybe during the next recession.
Mar 18, 2014, 9:16 am
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HTB.
Mar 18, 2014, 10:33 am
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Sep 8, 2014, 9:29 am
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Miles & More has new operator [Miles & More GmbH announced]
NEW T&C due to
We've been heard as the changes this time are highlighted directly in the published pdf
Miles & More GmbH, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lufthansa German Airlines, will now assume responsibility for all programme related topics to earning and redeeming of award miles. Lufthansa German Airlines will remain responsible, as at present, for topics regarding frequent flyer status and the earning of status miles. For you, as a member, this is purely a matter of an internal realignment of responsibilities within the Lufthansa Group.