Nov 18, 2013, 3:46 pm
Last edit by: Kat007
First Class elimination:
FRA-DXB as of 01JUN14
FRA-SEA as of 01JUL14
FRA-NRT as of Summer 2014
FRA-KIX
FRA-MCO
Cancelled destinations:
2014
Nizhny Novgorod/GOJ
Ekaterinburg
Khartoum
Ho Chi Minh
Busan
2013
Kazan
Perm
Libreville
Pointe Noire
2012
Rostov
Kolkata
Guangzhou
Calgary
2011
Hyderabad
FRA-DXB as of 01JUN14
FRA-SEA as of 01JUL14
FRA-NRT as of Summer 2014
FRA-KIX
FRA-MCO
Cancelled destinations:
2014
Nizhny Novgorod/GOJ
Ekaterinburg
Khartoum
Ho Chi Minh
Busan
2013
Kazan
Perm
Libreville
Pointe Noire
2012
Rostov
Kolkata
Guangzhou
Calgary
2011
Hyderabad
Lufthansa New/Cancelled Routes and Changes
Jan 26, 2014, 4:11 am
#62
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Jan 26, 2014, 6:21 am
#63
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It looks like DUS is losing F service on the EWR and ORD services starting 19FEB. Expertflyer only shows
J9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
and rows 1 and 2 are displayed as part of C, with the seats being blocked. Trying to display an F seat map results in an error.
J9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
and rows 1 and 2 are displayed as part of C, with the seats being blocked. Trying to display an F seat map results in an error.
Jan 31, 2014, 3:14 am
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Per airline route. New C for ICN at least temporarily.
AS per 30JAN14 GDS timetable/inventory display, Lufthansa from 28FEB14 to 30JUN14 is operate Boeing 747-8I aircraft on daily Frankfurt – Seoul Incheon route, replacing Boeing 747-400 aircraft. Planned operational schedule from 30MAR14 to 30JUN14 as follow.
LH712 FRA1745 – 1045+1ICN 74H D
LH713 ICN1450 – 1915FRA 74H D
LH713 operates with 747-8I from 01MAR14 to 01JUL14
LH712 FRA1745 – 1045+1ICN 74H D
LH713 ICN1450 – 1915FRA 74H D
LH713 operates with 747-8I from 01MAR14 to 01JUL14
Feb 28, 2014, 7:08 am
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Per airlineroute A380 postponed by a couple of weeks to PEK
Lufthansa has postponed planned Airbus A380 service resumption on Frankfurt – Beijing route, which the Super Jumbo will operate this route once again from 29MAR14, instead of 12MAR14. Boeing 747-8I will continue to operate this service until 28MAR14 (from FRA).
LH720 FRA1700 – 0930+1PEK 74H D
LH721 PEK1130 – 1500FRA 74H D
LH720 FRA1700 – 0930+1PEK 74H D
LH721 PEK1130 – 1500FRA 74H D
Mar 5, 2014, 10:48 am
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A bunch of changes:
Per airlineroute:
Per airlineroute:
Update at 1000GMT 05MAR14
As of 05MAR14, latest Lufthansa Summer 2014 long-haul operation service changes, effective 30MAR14, as follow. Additional changes remain highly possible.
Frankfurt – Boston Planned capacity increase with double daily 747-400 service in S14
LH422/423 Boeing 747-400 replaces A340-600
LH420/421 Boeing 747-400 replaces A340-600 from 19MAY14 (Seasonal service begins from 18APR14 initially with A340-600. 747 previously planned to operate from 10MAY14)
Frankfurt – Caracas Airbus A330-300 replaces A340-300/-600, starting 19JAN14, will be maintained on/after 30MAR14
LH534 FRA1025 – 1430CCS 333 D
LH535 CCS1650 – 0925+1FRA 333 D
Due to local currency situation, reservations for all class of service for Caracas is closed in the GDS from late-May 2014
Frankfurt – Dallas eff 28JUL14 Airbus A340-300 replaces A330-300; Cancellation of First Class service (Previously to start from 01JUL14)
Frankfurt – Detroit 3-class Airbus A340-600 replaces 2-class A340-300 during following period: 05MAY14 – 31MAY14 (Previous plan: 30MAR14 – 04MAY14)
Frankfurt – Dubai
eff 30MAR14 Airbus A340-300 replacing Boeing 747-400 daily service
eff 01JUN14 First Class service cancelled, service operates with 2-class A340-300 instead of 3-class (NEW Adjustment)
Frankfurt – Kuwait – Dammam
30MAR14 – 20JUL14 Airbus A340-300 replaces A330-300, 4 weekly
22JUL14 – 25OCT14 A330-300 operates 3 weekly, A340-300 1 weekly (NEW Adjustment)
Frankfurt – Montreal 16MAY14 – 12OCT14 Service resumption with 5 weekly as seasonal flight. Operational aircraft has been revised to: 333 on Day 2, 343 on Day x126
Frankfurt – Philadelphia eff 01JUN14 3-class A340-300 replaced by following:
01JUN14 – 01AUG14 346 Day x34 343 (2-class) Day 34
02AUG14 – 21AUG14 343 (2-class) Daily
eff 22AUG14 343 (2-class) Day x4 333 Day 4
Frankfurt – Seattle eff 25APR14 Airbus A340-300 replaces A330-300 (Unchanged)
LH490 FRA1015 – 1140SEA 343 D
LH491 SEA1335 – 0840+1FRA 343 D
2-class A340 aircraft operates from 01JUL14 (instead of 21JUN14), which sees the cancellation of First Class service.
Frankfurt – Washington Dulles eff 02AUG14 Summer seasonal 2nd daily LH416/417 operates with 3-class A340-600 (Day x34) and 2-class A340-300 (Day 34), replacing A330-300 (operation until 15OCT14. Previous plan: 2-class A340-300 from 24JUL14)
Munich – Boston Operational aircraft changes. A340-300 operates from 30MAR14, A330-300 from 27APR14 (instead of 30MAR14), A340-600 from 05JUN14
Munich – Dubai
Service reduces from daily to 6 weekly (Day x6 from MUC, Day x7 from DXB), A330-300 operation
Service will be cancelled from 30JUN14 to 20JUL14 (NEW adjustment)
Munich – Seoul Incheon – Busan Busan service is cancelled from 30MAR14. Planned A340-600 service on Munich – Seoul Incheon remains unchanged at 6 weekly level
Frankfurt – Osaka Kansai – Tokyo Narita Planned service consolidation for Osaka and Tokyo Narita service will operates until 19JUL14 (from FRA) only. From 20JUL14, both airports receive dedicated nonstop service once again
30MAR14 – 19JUL14
LH740 FRA1320 – 0710+1KIX0810+1 – 0925+1NRT 744 D
LH741 NRT1055 – 1215KIX1315 – 1800FRA 744 D
eff 20JUL14
Frankfurt – Osaka Kansai
LH740 FRA1320 – 0710+1KIX 744 D
LH741 KIX1005 – 1450FRA 744 D
Frankfurt – Tokyo Narita
LH710 FRA1355 – 0750+1NRT 744 D
LH711 NRT0945 – 1425FRA 744 D
As of 05MAR14, latest Lufthansa Summer 2014 long-haul operation service changes, effective 30MAR14, as follow. Additional changes remain highly possible.
Frankfurt – Boston Planned capacity increase with double daily 747-400 service in S14
LH422/423 Boeing 747-400 replaces A340-600
LH420/421 Boeing 747-400 replaces A340-600 from 19MAY14 (Seasonal service begins from 18APR14 initially with A340-600. 747 previously planned to operate from 10MAY14)
Frankfurt – Caracas Airbus A330-300 replaces A340-300/-600, starting 19JAN14, will be maintained on/after 30MAR14
LH534 FRA1025 – 1430CCS 333 D
LH535 CCS1650 – 0925+1FRA 333 D
Due to local currency situation, reservations for all class of service for Caracas is closed in the GDS from late-May 2014
Frankfurt – Dallas eff 28JUL14 Airbus A340-300 replaces A330-300; Cancellation of First Class service (Previously to start from 01JUL14)
Frankfurt – Detroit 3-class Airbus A340-600 replaces 2-class A340-300 during following period: 05MAY14 – 31MAY14 (Previous plan: 30MAR14 – 04MAY14)
Frankfurt – Dubai
eff 30MAR14 Airbus A340-300 replacing Boeing 747-400 daily service
eff 01JUN14 First Class service cancelled, service operates with 2-class A340-300 instead of 3-class (NEW Adjustment)
Frankfurt – Kuwait – Dammam
30MAR14 – 20JUL14 Airbus A340-300 replaces A330-300, 4 weekly
22JUL14 – 25OCT14 A330-300 operates 3 weekly, A340-300 1 weekly (NEW Adjustment)
Frankfurt – Montreal 16MAY14 – 12OCT14 Service resumption with 5 weekly as seasonal flight. Operational aircraft has been revised to: 333 on Day 2, 343 on Day x126
Frankfurt – Philadelphia eff 01JUN14 3-class A340-300 replaced by following:
01JUN14 – 01AUG14 346 Day x34 343 (2-class) Day 34
02AUG14 – 21AUG14 343 (2-class) Daily
eff 22AUG14 343 (2-class) Day x4 333 Day 4
Frankfurt – Seattle eff 25APR14 Airbus A340-300 replaces A330-300 (Unchanged)
LH490 FRA1015 – 1140SEA 343 D
LH491 SEA1335 – 0840+1FRA 343 D
2-class A340 aircraft operates from 01JUL14 (instead of 21JUN14), which sees the cancellation of First Class service.
Frankfurt – Washington Dulles eff 02AUG14 Summer seasonal 2nd daily LH416/417 operates with 3-class A340-600 (Day x34) and 2-class A340-300 (Day 34), replacing A330-300 (operation until 15OCT14. Previous plan: 2-class A340-300 from 24JUL14)
Munich – Boston Operational aircraft changes. A340-300 operates from 30MAR14, A330-300 from 27APR14 (instead of 30MAR14), A340-600 from 05JUN14
Munich – Dubai
Service reduces from daily to 6 weekly (Day x6 from MUC, Day x7 from DXB), A330-300 operation
Service will be cancelled from 30JUN14 to 20JUL14 (NEW adjustment)
Munich – Seoul Incheon – Busan Busan service is cancelled from 30MAR14. Planned A340-600 service on Munich – Seoul Incheon remains unchanged at 6 weekly level
Frankfurt – Osaka Kansai – Tokyo Narita Planned service consolidation for Osaka and Tokyo Narita service will operates until 19JUL14 (from FRA) only. From 20JUL14, both airports receive dedicated nonstop service once again
30MAR14 – 19JUL14
LH740 FRA1320 – 0710+1KIX0810+1 – 0925+1NRT 744 D
LH741 NRT1055 – 1215KIX1315 – 1800FRA 744 D
eff 20JUL14
Frankfurt – Osaka Kansai
LH740 FRA1320 – 0710+1KIX 744 D
LH741 KIX1005 – 1450FRA 744 D
Frankfurt – Tokyo Narita
LH710 FRA1355 – 0750+1NRT 744 D
LH711 NRT0945 – 1425FRA 744 D
Mar 27, 2014, 1:41 pm
#67
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Another NEK, for mid-haul
per airlineroute:
per airlineroute:
Lufthansa is to reduce capacity on selected markets in Central Asia, as Frankfurt – Baku – Ashgabat service switches to narrow-body Airbus A321 aircraft, instead of A330/340. Aircraft change is scheduled to take place from 21JUL14.
LH612 FRA1320 – 2055GYD2145 – 2315ASB 321 2
LH612 FRA1325 – 2100GYD2150 – 2320ASB 321 x257
LH613 ASB0125 – 0305GYD0405 – 0615FRA 321 x16
LH612 FRA1320 – 2055GYD2145 – 2315ASB 321 2
LH612 FRA1325 – 2100GYD2150 – 2320ASB 321 x257
LH613 ASB0125 – 0305GYD0405 – 0615FRA 321 x16
Mar 28, 2014, 4:53 am
#68
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Another NEK, for mid-haul
per airlineroute:
per airlineroute:
Mar 28, 2014, 6:36 am
#69
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1.)What is the alternatives to ASB if not LH?
2.) What is the cheapest Y fare?
I have never been to ASB, and I don't know what the cost of doing business is there for LH, and who the people are who will buy NEK C tickets at that price, but if LH can sell them, more power to them.
This does seem to be a shortcoming of the NEK strategy: what to offer premium passengers on thin mid haul routes? If a widebody is too much capacity, how do you get people to pay for such crap for 4, 5 or even 6 hours--unless there is no competition... @:-)
My personal pain threshold in NEK is about FRA-HEL. Anything longer than HEL is HEL-L...
Mar 28, 2014, 7:48 am
#71
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But old news: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...ss-ticket.html
Considering LH is reducing their A343 fleet and deploying the A330 on profitable routes its no surprise.
Considering LH is reducing their A343 fleet and deploying the A330 on profitable routes its no surprise.
Mar 28, 2014, 8:50 am
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Same for the MUC-TBS I'm looking at now.
Though the Y(L) fare, in late fall, appears decent so far.
TBS alternative is TK.
EVN lacks both LH and TK, but has OS.
All in all, having NEK all the way, Y is the way to go.
Though the Y(L) fare, in late fall, appears decent so far.
TBS alternative is TK.
EVN lacks both LH and TK, but has OS.
All in all, having NEK all the way, Y is the way to go.
Mar 28, 2014, 12:12 pm
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Why not something like this? http://www.britishairways.com/en-ch/...ld-london-city. This is on an A318. And they have lie-flats as well on parts of the ex-BMI subfleet which goes to the Near East and Central Asia. And there are plenty of other airlines that have a real premium cabin on narrowbody jets. Haven't flown the new AA Airbus A321 on the transcon route yet, but that is another example.
Mar 28, 2014, 2:42 pm
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Why not something like this? http://www.britishairways.com/en-ch/...ld-london-city. This is on an A318. And they have lie-flats as well on parts of the ex-BMI subfleet which goes to the Near East and Central Asia. And there are plenty of other airlines that have a real premium cabin on narrowbody jets. Haven't flown the new AA Airbus A321 on the transcon route yet, but that is another examaple.
What are the odds of that happening?
Mar 29, 2014, 3:46 am
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Another great example of brilliant Aviation Management; making a profitable flight even more profitable by employing a cheaper aircraft and working with capacity benefitting the change even more.
And for the poor souls (with a certain affection for airline food) there is TK (and since a few months now, apparently also...Air Serbia)
The network management in recent months is simply spectacular and I am happy to see that there are no (well, okay..., hardly any) sacred cows anymore.
Hence, the prof. biz traveler prefers Lufty and a good Turkish or Serbian restaurant at home on the weekend.
Reminds me a bit of the good old Fairy Ultra commercial.
While the biz pro is already at home enjoying Turkish food in a good restaurant, the lame duck is still consuming Turkish food at a TK lounge in IST. The really poor soul has to overnight in Belgrade.
And for the poor souls (with a certain affection for airline food) there is TK (and since a few months now, apparently also...Air Serbia)
The network management in recent months is simply spectacular and I am happy to see that there are no (well, okay..., hardly any) sacred cows anymore.
Hence, the prof. biz traveler prefers Lufty and a good Turkish or Serbian restaurant at home on the weekend.
Reminds me a bit of the good old Fairy Ultra commercial.
While the biz pro is already at home enjoying Turkish food in a good restaurant, the lame duck is still consuming Turkish food at a TK lounge in IST. The really poor soul has to overnight in Belgrade.