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First Class elimination:
FRA-DXB as of 01JUN14
FRA-SEA as of 01JUL14
FRA-NRT as of Summer 2014
FRA-KIX
FRA-MCO

Cancelled destinations:
2014
Nizhny Novgorod/GOJ
Ekaterinburg
Khartoum
Ho Chi Minh
Busan
2013
Kazan
Perm
Libreville
Pointe Noire
2012
Rostov
Kolkata
Guangzhou
Calgary
2011
Hyderabad

Lufthansa New/Cancelled Routes and Changes

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Oct 9, 2014, 6:09 pm

#166

divjan

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http://airlineroute.net/2014/10/09/lh-s15update1/

some interesting changes......nice to see FRA-EWR-FRA(First class is returning) is getting 748 and MUC-JFK-MUC will be switching to 346

Oct 9, 2014, 7:54 pm

#167

JC Gold

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Great news that EWR will have a consistent first class product! Now if they had a nice first class lounge experience there would be no reason to schlep over to JFK then.

Oct 10, 2014, 2:46 am

#168

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It looks like they take out quiete some C class seats to get PE into the plane i.e, A380 current C98 (new C92) and now it shows as C78. A340-300 from C42 to C30, etc. I am not sure how this goes with the idea PE does not eat into C class

Last edited by HKG1111; Oct 10, 2014 at 2:51 am

Oct 10, 2014, 2:55 am

#169

oliver2002

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A380 is getting 50+ E class seats, but those are on the lower deck and eat into Y capacity. What you observed is the new Y mini cabin coming next summer in the upper deck behind C.

Oct 10, 2014, 3:15 am

#170

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver2002

A380 is getting 50+ E class seats, but those are on the lower deck and eat into Y capacity. What you observed is the new Y mini cabin coming next summer in the upper deck behind C.

Interesting. Thanks for the update on the mini Y, that reminds me on the SQ A380 layout.

The 747-400 C class layout for S15 seems interesting (i.e FRA - YVR): On the upper deck only C seats 2-2 but the lower deck still has 2-3-2 row 10-14. Will they keep the old seats as the 748 has only 2-2-2 in these rows?

Oct 10, 2014, 3:18 am

#171

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No the 744 will have the new C class but in a 2-3-2 parallel layout. Backed by popular demand for // config to avoid /\ footsie layout

Oct 10, 2014, 3:31 am

#172

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Intersting summary from VFT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABVF

LH hat heute die Daten für den Sommerflugplan 2015 aktualisiert.

Anbei ein erster Überblick über die Langstrecke für Flüge ab FRA (Flugplandaten für Juli 2015):

LH400 JFK A388 7/7
LH402 EWR B748 7/7
LH404 JFK B748 7/7
LH416 IAD B744 7/7
LH418 IAD B748 7/7
LH420 BOS B744 7/7
LH422 BOS B748 7/7
LH426 PHL A346 4/7, A343 1/7, A333 2/7
LH430 ORD B748 7/7
LH432 ORD B744 7/7
LH438 DFW A343 7/7
LH440 IAH A388 7/7
LH442 DTW A346 7/7
LH444 ATL A343 7/7
LH446 DEN B744 7/7
LH450 LAX B748 7/7
LH454 SFO A388 7/7
LH456 LAX A388 7/7
LH462 MIA A388 7/7
LH464 MCO B744 7/7
LH470 YYZ B744 7/7
LH478 YUL A343 5/7, A346 1/7, A333 1/7
LH490 SEA B744 7/7
LH492 YVR B744 7/7
LH498 MEX B748 7/7
LH500 GIG B744 7/7
LH506 GRU B748 7/7
LH510 EZE B748 7/7
LH534 CCS A333 7/7
LH542 BOG A346 7/7
LH560 LAD A333 2/7
LH562 ABV-SSG A333 7/7
LH566 ACC A333 7/7
LH572 JNB A388 7/7
LH594 LOS-PHC A333 7/7
LH598 JED-ADD A333 7/7
LH600 IKA A346 7/7
LH618 AUH-MCT A333 7/7
LH620 DOH-BAH A343 7/7
LH622 RUH A333 7/7
LH630 DXB A343 7/7
LH634 KWI-DMM A333 3/7
LH636 KWI A333 4/7
LH646 TSE-ALA A333 3/7
LH648 ALA A333 4/7
LH710 NRT B744 7/7
LH712 ICN A388 7/7
LH716 HND B748 7/7
LH720 PEK A388 7/7
LH728 PVG A388 7/7
LH732 PVG B744 7/7
LH736 NGO A343 7/7
LH740 KIX B744 7/7
LH754 BLR B748 7/7
LH756 BOM B744 7/7
LH758 MAA A343 7/7
LH760 DEL A388 7/7
LH772 BKK A343 7/7
LH778 SIN A388 7/7
LH780 NKG A343 5/7
LH782 KUL-CGK A343 5/7
LH784 SHE-TAO A343 3/7
LH796 HKG B748 7/7

Suprised at TSE/ALA remaining a widebody service, F remains to PHL, DEN will go F-less. BOM remains 744, no 380. Lots of capacity into IKA(346) DEL(388 and 346 from MUC) and DTW (previously planned two class 343 this summer already)

Last edited by oliver2002; Oct 10, 2014 at 3:39 am

Oct 10, 2014, 8:34 am

#173

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver2002

Intersting summary from VFT:

Suprised at TSE/ALA remaining a widebody service, F remains to PHL, DEN will go F-less. BOM remains 744, no 380. Lots of capacity into IKA(346) DEL(388 and 346 from MUC) and DTW (previously planned two class 343 this summer already)

F to PHL seems pretty schizophrenic. I am never quite able to figure out in advance when it is offered and when not...

Oct 10, 2014, 1:18 pm

#174

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same old from MUC, only CLT goes down to A330 instead of the usual 346:

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortfinal

Ich habe dieselbe Liste für MUC versucht zu erstellen.

LH410 JFK A346 7/7
LH412 EWR A346 7/7
LH414 IAD A333 7/7
LH424 BOS A346 7/7
LH428 CLT A333 7/7
LH434 ORD A346 7/7
LH452 LAX A346 7/7
LH458 SFO A346 7/7
LH474 YUL A333 7/7
LH476 YVR A333 7/7
LH494 YYZ A333 7/7
LH504 GRU A346 7/7
LH520 MEX A346 4/7
LH608 RUH A333 3/7
LH638 DXB A333 6/7
LH714 HND A346 7/7
LH718 ICN A346 6/7
LH722 PEK A346 7/7
LH726 PVG A346 7/7
LH730 HKG A346 7/7
LH762 DEL A333 5/7
LH764 BOM A333 7/7

Oct 10, 2014, 1:38 pm

#175

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver2002

same old from MUC, only CLT goes down to A330 instead of the usual 346:

S15 is all about the re-configuration and the adjustment on F/C and W/Y cabin seat counts/ratios.

Oct 10, 2014, 2:07 pm

#176

oliver2002

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Yep, the fun will really start with W15-16: 5 more 748 in service in FRA, remaining 346 moving to MUC, retrofit done, jump 343 in service. S16 will see the first A359 arrivals...

Oct 11, 2014, 12:36 am

#177

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angeleno228

In summer when the 2nd flight operates, it will still be 748i (the afternoon flight) but the morning one that operates year round (LH456) will be an A380. Thats an increase in the LAX capacity.

That's a bummer. I and my family are booked on the earlier flight on August 7 from LAX to FRA as we wanted to fly the 747-8. So if we still want to fly the -8, I guess we have to rebook the ticket to the evening flight. I am just concerned that what if Lufthansa changes that equipment type also? How likely is that?