New OS destination: Newark EWR

Old Oct 29, 2013, 3:48 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
...JFK is a dead end in that respect. ORD is the same, excellent connections.
I don't know, for those of us who are willing to abandon the *A at the port of entry, and fly, e.g., DL once in a while, JFK has some excellent onward connections...

However, I see the point, and it does probably make sense for OS to use EWR for access to onward connections via UA, despite the fact that it is, well, EWR.
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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:24 am
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I did a OS-DL connection in JFK once. Never again. Its terrible. OS' agent in T1 knows they can accept luggage, but clearly tells you its at your own risk, and does so in a very NY way. Maybe DL has improved significantly in their move to T4, but getting to the Pan Am Worldport then was an 'experience' too. NW in T4 was no better, hence I'm sceptical. How the transfer to B6 in T5 is, I don't know. LH NYC sales and JFK ST worked hard to make that possible, maybe its a bit nicer.
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Old Oct 29, 2013, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
I did a OS-DL connection in JFK once. Never again. Its terrible. OS' agent in T1 knows they can accept luggage, but clearly tells you its at your own risk, and does so in a very NY way. Maybe DL has improved significantly in their move to T4, but getting to the Pan Am Worldport then was an 'experience' too. NW in T4 was no better, hence I'm skeptical.

How the transfer to B6 in T5 is, I don't know. LH NYC sales and JFK ST worked hard to make that possible, maybe its a bit nicer.
It is possible to get from T1 (LH) to T5 (B6) via the SkyTrain without being exposed to the weather. No better or worse than transferring terminals in EWR, IME.

I used to walk from T1 to T2 (it's only about 150m) and use the DL premium check-in and security line, and the experience, while not optimal, was tolerable, and there are some good onward connections with DL.

I suppose if one is without status on SkyTeam, the experience of transferring from LH Group to DL at JFK is somewhat different... A T1 to T4/T5 shouldn't be any different, except that T4 is one stop closer than T5 on the SkyTrain. I am not NY-based anymore, but I do use T4 once in a while when flying SQ or OZ ex-JFK, and I sometimes arrive on a DL feeder flight. When one has status on both carriers, it is not so bad. DL is very good about interlining my bags as well.
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Old Oct 29, 2013, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by N1003U
I don't know, for those of us who are willing to abandon the *A at the port of entry, and fly, e.g., DL once in a while, JFK has some excellent onward connections...

However, I see the point, and it does probably make sense for OS to use EWR for access to onward connections via UA, despite the fact that it is, well, EWR.
Right- I have flown DL quite a few times as with nonstop JFK/VCE and then onward connections it is not too bad. In general- while I do agree that transferring at JFK certainly could be improved- I wouldn't really complain too much given the cluster mess at LHR, CDG, and FRA in particular (all three being particularly poor and seeming getting worse as opposed to better).
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Old Oct 29, 2013, 7:50 am
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Originally Posted by LufthansaFlyer
You forget about the pent-up Eastern European pax traffic that has to go to JFK for any reasonable non-LH carriers. EWR basically having only sLOTh and LH (for *A at least) left a lot to be desired for those traveling to Eastern Europe. Besides, it is soooo much easier to get to EWR than JFK for of NYC and everything North West and South.
And LOT dropped EWR some time ago, with flights to NYC only, maybe OS is trying to pinch some connecting traffic that would prefer to use EWR.
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Old Jul 11, 2014, 9:52 pm
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Austrian check in counter - EWR

Apologies if this is posted somewhere, I did run a search...

Since OS recently started the new flight from Newark, do they have a dedicated counter or do you have to check in at the Lufthansa or another counter?

Thanks...
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Old Mar 8, 2015, 1:04 pm
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OS not flying into EWR

I booked a UA miles tkt my Outbound was on OS from EWR connecting onward from VIE. By chance I checked my April res last night and noticed it said JFK and not EWR. I called UA and was informed OS CXed the EWR flight and proactively put me on their JFK flight, still in BIZ (which is a 777 and much better seats then the 767 would have been from EWR).Only problem is Im returning into EWR and plan to drive and park my car at the airport

Not sure if OS CXed the EWR completely or just on my day. If you are holding tkts for OS out of EWR Id check your res to make sure it wasnt CXed and now they have you going out of JFK instead , unles sit works for you beter that way.

turns out OS will be flying only 4x into EWR till 4/2 , so make sure if youre flying on OS before 4/2 that they didnt move you over to JFK like they did me

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Old Mar 8, 2015, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by craz
I booked a UA miles tkt my Outbound was on OS from EWR connecting onward from VIE. By chance I checked my April res last night and noticed it said JFK and not EWR. I called UA and was informed OS CXed the EWR flight and proactively put me on their JFK flight, still in BIZ (which is a 777 and much better seats then the 767 would have been from EWR).Only problem is Im returning into EWR and plan to drive and park my car at the airport

Not sure if OS CXed the EWR completely or just on my day. If you are holding tkts for OS out of EWR Id check your res to make sure it wasnt CXed and now they have you going out of JFK instead , unles sit works for you beter that way.
What day in April? I don't know what happened to your reservation, but I checked the OS timetable on austrian.com and OS90 operates every day in April.
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Old Mar 8, 2015, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by gusd
What day in April? I don't know what happened to your reservation, but I checked the OS timetable on austrian.com and OS90 operates every day in April.
the 1st, I just played with the site and saw for the week up to 4/1 they will be flying only 4x some days it showed EWR and not JFK

I booked my flight back in 8/14

I'll get a Mod to change the title. But I posted what the UA rep told me I guess she didnt check all dates but was able to see I was booked for 4/1 originally and that now instead of EWR as booked OS moved me to their JFK flight, since they CXed the EWR flight

Seems they arent flying out on Tues,Thurs or Sat. They will be flying out the Weds before I was suppose to 3/25 yet for some reason they CXed Weds 4/1, yet as you posted seems it is daily comes Thurs 4/2

No complaints from me as UA has a better seat and no 4+hr connecting flight on the A321 in biz which is really a coach seat, its now BF all the way and arriving 4+ hrs earlier and savings of apx $35 in taxes to boot.

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Old Mar 8, 2015, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by craz
the 1st, I just played with the site and saw for the week up to 4/1 they will be flying only 4x some days it showed EWR and not JFK

I booked my flight back in 8/14

I'll get a Mod to change the title. But I posted what the UA rep told me I guess she didnt check all dates but was able to see I was booked for 4/1 originally and that now instead of EWR as booked OS moved me to their JFK flight, since they CXed the EWR flight
Hm, that's interesting. While austrian.com timetable says it is operating, you cannot actually book a ticket for 4/1. You can for 4/2 though. Must have been a recent day of the week cancellation and they haven't updated the timetable.
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Old Mar 8, 2015, 4:20 pm
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Hm, that's interesting. While austrian.com timetable says it is operating, you cannot actually book a ticket for 4/1. You can for 4/2 though. Must have been a recent day of the week cancellation and they haven't updated the timetable.
Nor can you purchase a tkt EWR-VIE for 3/24 or 28 or 31 yet 3/25 the Weds before my flight you can, yet Weds 4/1 no flight Go figure

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which is a 777 and much better seats then the 767 would have been from EWR
OS 767 and 777 have the same seats in their C.
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Old Mar 8, 2015, 6:42 pm
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OS 767 and 777 have the same seats in their C.
Maybe the same seats but SG has the 777 pegged at 40/78 x 19.37 and the 767s @ 60 x 19 Or UAs 764s where I prefer the middle single seats but the foot wells are alot smaller then the seats on the sides, so I take an aisle on the side instead. But no question the 777 is wider and thusly gives me a different feeling then when on a 767.

sort like UA where its the same seat but the foot wells are extremely small except for the bulkheads so tall folks wont be able to lie in a fully flat position,

That said Im sure its the same seat that LX uses and I find that to be too hard for my liking, but Id grab it over OSs or LHs A321s where C is really just Y (My connecting flights to/from Europe not TATL) or LHs angled seats TATL. LX doesnt use its 320s but Ive gotten stuck with them a few times when the wide-body was swiped out, its a killer with the 5am flight liveable with the 5pm flight
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Old Mar 9, 2015, 4:04 am
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As per the GDS'es no EWR flight on Apr 1:

OS RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **
** AUSTRIAN AIRLINES - AN ** 23 WE 01APR 0000
13OS* 87 J9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 VIEJFK 1045 1355 772 0
G0 Q2
14OS* 71 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 VIEYYZ 1035 1410 767 0
H9 G0 Q9 V5 W1
15AC 718 J6 C6 D2 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 LGA 1615 1748 E90 0
H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S9 T9 L9 A4 K2 R0
16OS* 71 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 VIEYYZ 1035 1410 767 0
H9 G0 Q9 V9 W9 S6 T6 L2
17UA*8232 F4 A4 P0 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 LGA 1615 1748 E90 0
V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7
18OS* 71 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 VIEYYZ 1035 1410 767 0
H9 G0 Q9 V9 W9 S6 T6 L2
19UA*8200 F4 A4 P4 Y7 B7 M7 U7 H7 Q7 EWR 1635 1817 E90 0
V7 W7 S0 T0 L0 K0
20OS* 71 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 VIEYYZ 1035 1410 767 0
H9 G0 Q9 V5 W1
21AC 740 J5 C5 D5 Z5 P4 Y9 B9 M9 U9 EWR 1635 1817 E90 0
H9 Q9 V9 W9 G5 S1 R2.
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Old Mar 9, 2015, 7:56 am
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I had noticed no OS award space with UA ex-EWR. OS has always been an "easy" grab in business using UA miles but lately all I was seeing was ex-JFK. This seems to explain that.
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