Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Lufthansa or Aegean for miles?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 23, 2013, 2:17 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1
Lufthansa or Aegean for miles?

Hi guys,

I'm having a miles&more account (with around 10k miles only) and miles&bonus with several thousands miles.

Tomorrow, I'm flying:

PRG - FRA - ORD- LEX (in 1 month back)
It's economy class B
The flight is with Lufthansa and United.

(when I was checking Lufthansa it looked like I should earn around 5k miles for each way - is it true?)

My concern is, I'm not a frequent flyer but I would like to earn the miles as wisely as possible (I know about the Aegean program where I need only 4000 miles for their Blue Card), with Lufthansa everything is more difficult.

Would it be better for me to go with Aegean or Lufthansa program?
Thanks for your tips&advices
flaksik is offline  
Old Aug 23, 2013, 3:41 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,163
The blue card on Aegean is worth even less than FTL with Lufthansa. The problem with the Star Silver level is that benefits are largely confined to the "home" airline. FTL will give you LH business lounge access but not in any other carriers lounges.

However, things change once you get to the Star Gold level, since this is governed by reciprical Star Alliance rules. An Aegean gold card will admit you to all Star Alliance gold lounges, like the LH SEN lounges, the United clubs, and so on. For this card on Aegean you need 20,000 miles in 12 months. On LH you need 100,000. Therein lies the beauty of Aegean. Do note however, that to make this difficult, not all flights credit to all schemes with the same mileage levels, so look before you book.

Your B class ticket, when credited to Aegean, will give you 150% intercontinental, 1250 miles flat Europe and 950 miles flat German domestic. So, pretty much the same as LH. I would credit Aegean, where the award levels are lower. (eg. TATL J 90,000 miles instead of 105,000 with LH, TATL F 120,000 instead of 170,000 with LH)
Tafflyer is offline  
Old Aug 24, 2013, 7:37 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: homeless 2.0
Programs: A3 Gold, LH FTL
Posts: 1,065
Originally Posted by Tafflyer
The blue card on Aegean is worth even less than FTL with Lufthansa.
but ironically its easier to get Aegean Gold than LH FTL
so yes I would also recommend crediting to Aegean
kanor is offline  
Old Aug 27, 2013, 10:03 am
  #4  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,163
Exactly!
M&M is currently a waste of time and effort. I credit everything from *A to Aegean, even if the booking class results in zero miles. The paltry 125 M&M miles for short Eco sectors is not worth bothering with. I also refuse to book LH P-class biz fares and now always favour BA for discount biz tickets when in the past I may have credited M&M. LH made their choice, they chose their strategy, I reject it and either fly a different airline or credit an alternate FFP. I would encourage others to do the same.
Tafflyer is offline  
Old Aug 27, 2013, 10:14 am
  #5  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: homeless 2.0
Programs: A3 Gold, LH FTL
Posts: 1,065
Originally Posted by Tafflyer
I credit everything from *A to Aegean, even if the booking class results in zero miles.
Supposedly you can retrocredit those 0 mile segments to M&M, because A3 system is not grabbing them since they are 0 anyway. Would like to know if this works so please report back if you succeed/fail
kanor is offline  
Old Aug 27, 2013, 4:25 pm
  #6  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: K+K
Programs: *G
Posts: 4,866
crediting is one thing,
can one redeem aegean miles reasonably easy, however
deniah is offline  
Old Aug 27, 2013, 4:35 pm
  #7  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,163
Originally Posted by deniah
crediting is one thing,
can one redeem aegean miles reasonably easy, however
Yes! And at lower levels than LH demand. Example: Europe-USA return in J for 90,000 miles. This is the same as LH had pre-Meilenschwund.
Tafflyer is offline  
Old Aug 27, 2013, 4:44 pm
  #8  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,063
which one will still exist in 5 Years ?

I would opt for Lufti, shoestring budget undercapitalized little Aegean might not be around down the road, making your miles and status worthless.

Pls recall how he Greek government cheated Greece into the Euro, by providing fake numbers and statistics.
Fendant is offline  
Old Aug 27, 2013, 5:51 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYZ/YTZ/YUL
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite
Posts: 1,558
Originally Posted by Fendant
I would opt for Lufti, shoestring budget undercapitalized little Aegean might not be around down the road, making your miles and status worthless.

Pls recall how he Greek government cheated Greece into the Euro, by providing fake numbers and statistics.
After what happened to BD status pax I wouldn't be so worried about status. Somebody will surely match. Regarding redemptions, you probably shouldn't leave your miles lying around for years&years anyway. See Meilenschwund mentioned above.

OP, in your situation I would credit to A3, once you have Blue those 4k miles will not expire and you'll only need to fly another 16k in any 12 month period to get *G.
TravellingSalesman is offline  
Old Aug 27, 2013, 6:02 pm
  #10  
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYZ
Programs: BA Gold/Marriott Gold/HH Diamond/IC Plat Amba
Posts: 5,988
Originally Posted by Tafflyer
Exactly!
M&M is currently a waste of time and effort. I credit everything from *A to Aegean, even if the booking class results in zero miles. The paltry 125 M&M miles for short Eco sectors is not worth bothering with. I also refuse to book LH P-class biz fares and now always favour BA for discount biz tickets when in the past I may have credited M&M. LH made their choice, they chose their strategy, I reject it and either fly a different airline or credit an alternate FFP. I would encourage others to do the same.
Pretty well the way I look at it now. But I'm pretty well done with Star. I will miss LX though.
Crampedin13A is offline  
Old Sep 12, 2013, 12:45 am
  #11  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM, Ex-TX/ CA
Programs: Ex CO/ UA Gold, Hotels.. TBD
Posts: 734
Originally Posted by Crampedin13A
Pretty well the way I look at it now. But I'm pretty well done with Star. I will miss LX though.
Which Alliance and Airline are you going with then?
xmlsoa is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.