Originally Posted by cas_de
(Post 32505081)
Dear Lufthansa Team:
I trust this message finds you well in these challenging times. I am really struggling with clarification of rebooking rules for award tickets that have been canceled due to the Corona shutdown. In my case we are talking about an award itin for 4 pax (Business Class, 3 adults, 1 child) from Germany to Canada, transatlantic services on LH, domestic flights within Canada operated by AC. 5 out of the 6 segments got canceled and when I spoke to the SEN line to park the reservation I was told that the tickets can be rebooked once for free before Dec 31, 2020 for travel until Dec 31, 2021 REGARDLESS of award inventory availability. Now, the time has come where our new travel dates fall within the 330 day period where you can make reservations and after three calls to the SEN line I got a portfolio of contradictory and presumably fluid rules / statements:
I know you guys struggle big time these days to keep one nostril above the water line, but these inconsistent, sometimes contradictory and not necessarily customer friendly rules make it hard for us as customers to make plans, prevent/avoid refunds and make new reservations. Any clarification is greatly appreciated! Thanks and best regards, cas_de For this purpose, feel free to DM us your booking code. Kind regards, Maria |
Originally Posted by LufthansaGermanAirlines
(Post 32511458)
Hi cas_de, Thank you for your extensive feedback. I am unable to provide a solution here, but I will forward your feedback to my colleagues.
For this purpose, feel free to DM us your booking code. Kind regards, Maria I have sent you a PM. Best regards, cas_de |
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Dear Lurker,
I had several tickets bought through Orbitz,for March, April and May, Business class VIE NYC return, LH MUC JFK Business class return, LH KBP MUC PEK return in First class. All flights were cancelled by LH and OS. I am trying to get clarification. The value of each ticket, can be rebooked for other routes, BUT if the fare is LESS than the original ticket, I do not receive the value any further? The travel agency is not sure, because it is rather illogical, of a cancelled flight by LH group, that somehow we are not entitled to reutilise the FULL value of the original tickets. Could you please clarify? Thank you! |
Originally Posted by dh01
(Post 32524820)
Dear Lurker,
I had several tickets bought through Orbitz,for March, April and May, Business class VIE NYC return, LH MUC JFK Business class return, LH KBP MUC PEK return in First class. All flights were cancelled by LH and OS. I am trying to get clarification. The value of each ticket, can be rebooked for other routes, BUT if the fare is LESS than the original ticket, I do not receive the value any further? The travel agency is not sure, because it is rather illogical, of a cancelled flight by LH group, that somehow we are not entitled to reutilise the FULL value of the original tickets. Could you please clarify? Thank you! Kind regards, Maria |
Originally Posted by LufthansaGermanAirlines
(Post 32511458)
Hi cas_de, Thank you for your extensive feedback. I am unable to provide a solution here, but I will forward your feedback to my colleagues.
For this purpose, feel free to DM us your booking code. Kind regards, Maria Thanks again, cas_de |
No lounge access with business class tickets at TLL. LufthansaGermanAirlines can you forward feedback that this is unacceptable and we will take our business elsewhere in the future instead? Thank you.
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Originally Posted by florens
(Post 32540704)
No lounge access with business class tickets at TLL. LufthansaGermanAirlines can you forward feedback that this is unacceptable and we will take our business elsewhere in the future instead? Thank you.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...099fa92ca.jpeg after the temporary closure of the Lufthansa lounges because of corona pandemic we are reopening more and more lounges in Germany and at worldwide destinations. A list of these lounges can be found here. Our goal is to reopen a large part of our lounges as soon as possible. In regards to our contract lounges, we have not yet resumed the offer that we have had to suspend for health protection reasons in the past few weeks. We will soon decide in which form we can offer this service again. Kind regards Jens |
Originally Posted by LufthansaGermanAirlines
(Post 32549556)
Hello florens,
after the temporary closure of the Lufthansa lounges because of corona pandemic we are reopening more and more lounges in Germany and at worldwide destinations. A list of these lounges can be found here. Our goal is to reopen a large part of our lounges as soon as possible. In regards to our contract lounges, we have not yet resumed the offer that we have had to suspend for health protection reasons in the past few weeks. We will soon decide in which form we can offer this service again. Kind regards Jens |
Dear LH Lurker! Unfortunately, I am quite desparate reagrding some refund of a flight which should have taken place at the beginning of April (and was cancelled ...). To get the refund we called the Spanish hotline (since the flight started in Madrid) at the end of March and were told we'd get back the money within max six weeks to the credit card (which didn't happen). After monthly calls in May, June and July, I wrote to LH online in August and we still didn't get any satisfactory reply, just the standard answer that LH is very sorry and there are big delays, and that eventually, we'd get back the money if justified ... since this was a return flight to Canada in Premium Economy the amount is quite substantial for us and I would really appreciate your help or suggestions on how to get the refund. After five months I am really desparate and considering using FairPlane or FlightRight etc. even if this implies losing a lot of money to them.
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Originally Posted by roundaboutspain
(Post 32635324)
Dear LH Lurker! Unfortunately, I am quite desparate reagrding some refund of a flight which should have taken place at the beginning of April (and was cancelled ...). To get the refund we called the Spanish hotline (since the flight started in Madrid) at the end of March and were told we'd get back the money within max six weeks to the credit card (which didn't happen). After monthly calls in May, June and July, I wrote to LH online in August and we still didn't get any satisfactory reply, just the standard answer that LH is very sorry and there are big delays, and that eventually, we'd get back the money if justified ... since this was a return flight to Canada in Premium Economy the amount is quite substantial for us and I would really appreciate your help or suggestions on how to get the refund. After five months I am really desparate and considering using FairPlane or FlightRight etc. even if this implies losing a lot of money to them.
as much as I can relate to your upset and wish we'd be able to help, there is no option to speed up the process or escalate, I'm sorry! All refund inquiries are currently processed with heavy delay due to an enormously high volume of requests. That situation was not foreseeable a few months ago, hence the deviant answers about the handling. However, this month we've committed to process and pay all refund applications for the first half of the year by the end of August and I assume your case will be followed up as soon as possible, as well. From my side, I can, sadly, only ask for a little bit more patience. Thank you for your understanding! Best regards, Katharina |
Dear LH Lurker and others,
how long should it take for a flight change to make it through ticketing? I have a Z ticket booking through the LH site, I've taken the forward journey and I'm trying to change the return journey which involves partner airlines. 5 times now I've updated the reservation using the call centre, I confirm it's in the queue for ticketing, then at a later stage (usually a few days to a week or two) something drops off the booking or I get an email saying the journey has been cancelled. I know these are difficult times, are there any tips to ensure my change gets ticketed? Many thanks. |
Originally Posted by sydunipete
(Post 32694586)
Dear LH Lurker and others,
how long should it take for a flight change to make it through ticketing? I have a Z ticket booking through the LH site, I've taken the forward journey and I'm trying to change the return journey which involves partner airlines. 5 times now I've updated the reservation using the call centre, I confirm it's in the queue for ticketing, then at a later stage (usually a few days to a week or two) something drops off the booking or I get an email saying the journey has been cancelled. I know these are difficult times, are there any tips to ensure my change gets ticketed? Many thanks. kindly provide us with your booking reference and the full names of all passengers in a DM. I will ask my colleagues about your reservation and the reissuing process. Best regards, Markus |
Hi LH Lurker,
It was suggested I repost my issue in this thread. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. To cut a long story short, I am stuck Bolivia as Lufthansa are not honouring their duty of care, as far as I can see. My initial flights VVI-BOG-FRA-MAN, scheduled for June 17 were cancelled. The VVI-BOG leg was via Avianca (I had mistakenly written Copa in the initial post), the rest being with Lufthansa. The initial ticketing was all done through Lufthansa. Each time I talk to the service centre I get a different series of responses. When borders reopened (1/9/20) they ticketed me via Sao Paolo, flying the first leg on an airline they don't have an interline agreement with (Amaszonas). This first leg kept being deticketed, and they kept trying again. The upshot of my latest conversation with them, resulted in them offering three options.
As far as I can see they are in direct contravention of EU Reg 261/2004 I am currently overstaying my visa, as the Bolivian borders opened on 1/9/20 for the purposes of air travel. This is incurring me a $3 per day penalty. The Lufthansa office in La Paz, Bolivia are refusing to return my calls. Quite frankly, I am desperate. I have to go home. Any advice or guidance that anyone can give would be gratefully received. |
Originally Posted by vinosity
(Post 32697188)
Hi LH Lurker,
It was suggested I repost my issue in this thread. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. To cut a long story short, I am stuck Bolivia as Lufthansa are not honouring their duty of care, as far as I can see. My initial flights VVI-BOG-FRA-MAN, scheduled for June 17 were cancelled. The VVI-BOG leg was via Avianca (I had mistakenly written Copa in the initial post), the rest being with Lufthansa. The initial ticketing was all done through Lufthansa. Each time I talk to the service centre I get a different series of responses. When borders reopened (1/9/20) they ticketed me via Sao Paolo, flying the first leg on an airline they don't have an interline agreement with (Amaszonas). This first leg kept being deticketed, and they kept trying again. The upshot of my latest conversation with them, resulted in them offering three options.
As far as I can see they are in direct contravention of EU Reg 261/2004 I am currently overstaying my visa, as the Bolivian borders opened on 1/9/20 for the purposes of air travel. This is incurring me a $3 per day penalty. The Lufthansa office in La Paz, Bolivia are refusing to return my calls. Quite frankly, I am desperate. I have to go home. Any advice or guidance that anyone can give would be gratefully received. It's exactly the same offer they made at the beginning of the month, and then reneged upon. It would have been almost for me to get to where I am in Bolivia to VVI to catch the flight, so we agreed that I could do the same routing next Friday. I also had a sneaking suspicion that they would renege again. Well, at about midday today, they reneged on their offer of honouring the first leg, as they don't have an interline agreement with the airline concerned. Now it has been agreed that I can pick up my flight from Sao Paulo if I can get there myself, out of my own pocket; without the £3000 reticketing fee they had originally said I should pay. Quite frankly I am incredibly disappointed and disgusted with this airline. Myself and my family have used them for years. I don't understand how they can make an offer that is accepted and ticketed, and then rescind it. I was very lucky that I didn't drop everything and fly out to Santa Cruz this morning, as that would have left me in an unsafe place where I would have to pay for accommodation until such a time as I could get back to where I currently am, or leave the country. |
Originally Posted by vinosity
(Post 32698570)
Thanks for all the advice. I woke up this morning to an offer of rerouting tomorrow VVI-GRU-FRA-MAN.
It's exactly the same offer they made at the beginning of the month, and then reneged upon. It would have been almost for me to get to where I am in Bolivia to VVI to catch the flight, so we agreed that I could do the same routing next Friday. I also had a sneaking suspicion that they would renege again. Well, at about midday today, they reneged on their offer of honouring the first leg, as they don't have an interline agreement with the airline concerned. Now it has been agreed that I can pick up my flight from Sao Paulo if I can get there myself, out of my own pocket; without the £3000 reticketing fee they had originally said I should pay. Quite frankly I am incredibly disappointed and disgusted with this airline. Myself and my family have used them for years. I don't understand how they can make an offer that is accepted and ticketed, and then rescind it. I was very lucky that I didn't drop everything and fly out to Santa Cruz this morning, as that would have left me in an unsafe place where I would have to pay for accommodation until such a time as I could get back to where I currently am, or leave the country. I'm sorry to hear of your situation and regret the problems caused by various airlines' cancellations and reduced flight operation. I just as much regret the back and forth discussing your options with the Service Center. Nevertheless, you might understand that the ongoing pandemic is just as challenging for us and it still proves quite difficult to provide stranded passengers with flight alternatives, given the fact that a lot of (partner-)airlines cancelled established routings and code-share connections. If you've been inaccurately offered a rebooking and we had to step back from initial offer, that's quite unfortunate and most definitely disappointing. However, I'd rather view it as my Service Center colleagues owning up to a mistake. Nevertheless, I understand that you've came to an agreement after all and will be able to use your return flight from Sao Paulo next week. Let me remind you that you have the possibility to forward any feedback and request for reimbursement to Customer Relations after arrival at your final destination. Colleagues there will then look into their options. I wish you a safe return flight and, once more, apologize for the caused upset. Maybe you will give us the chance to make up for it at some point later in the future. Best regards, Katharina |
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