Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
(Post 19319033)
For Asia- Yes.
For USA as an example- the new Delta business class product is nicer than LH and they have a nonstop to New York and Atlanta daily with perfect timings. Ciao again... DL has, in general, very bad conditions if one needs to change travel dates after booking. However, the recent changes to the LH fare structure has essentially leveled the playing field, where before LH had a definite advantage... |
Originally Posted by whiskey_sk
(Post 19307975)
OK has been cutting routes for quite some time now, not leaving aircraft parked, thinking it can make more money elsewhere, and yet they are far from being profitable today ;)
Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
(Post 19313124)
To cut a city like Guangzhou is not a strategic decision. The reason LH was not making money in Guangzhou is because their business class product is not competitive at all. Full stop.
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Originally Posted by ogepma
(Post 19327268)
What solid facts/evidence do you have to suggest this as the absolute reason why LH cut CAN? I am really interested in the facts you have based this comment on.
One of the fastest growing commercial aviation airports in the world. One of the most affluent cities in PRC. Host to the majority of the Fortune 500 (>50%). Hosts several of Asias largest trade fairs. Increasing lift by several carriers. As to why does HKG work? I suppose because it has been an international banking and trading hub for more than a century and an air hub for more than 50 years. By the way- friendly comments and questions are always welcome :) Have a great day, Travelsig |
Originally Posted by ogepma
(Post 19327268)
I am sorry but this is a very narrow minded perspective on this matter. And what do you mean by far from being profitable? You do realize that last year LH posted an operating profit of over 800 Million Euros and had a small net loss of about 13 million euros due costs incurred from the sale of BMI? Profitability does not automatically happen within a short period when one single decision is made, especially in such an economic climate and I am sure you are aware of this. Also, an operating loss at the second quarter of a financial year does not predict that the company would not post a profit and this has been witnessed several times (LH's 2010 results for example). LH even fared better than it had forecasted for Q2 earnings and I am very positive that happened as a result of some of the “controversial” measures that have taken.
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Lufthansa New Routes
Do you think Lufthansa could add San Jose CA as a new city and add flights to Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Munich? With JFK and EWR having LH flights I don't see why SJC couldn't support another LH destination. It would have to be on their Airbus 340 or possibly 747-800 aircraft.
If they could have a 4:00 PM departure time to Frankfurt a 5:00 PM flight to Berlin a 7:00 PM to Dusseldorf and a 8:30 PM flight to Munich that would really bring the "Non Stop You" home. |
Originally Posted by danielonn
(Post 20331344)
Do you think Lufthansa could add San Jose CA as a new city and add flights to Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Munich? With JFK and EWR having LH flights I don't see why SJC couldn't support another LH destination. It would have to be on their Airbus 340 or possibly 747-800 aircraft.
If they could have a 4:00 PM departure time to Frankfurt a 5:00 PM flight to Berlin a 7:00 PM to Dusseldorf and a 8:30 PM flight to Munich that would really bring the "Non Stop You" home. http://www.lufthansa-private-jet.com/ |
Lufthansa New Routes
Really not seeing that happening...
SFO is already very well served with LH an LX flights plus codeshare on UA Berlin nonstop to CA - absolutely not! Don't think that could be profitable..... |
You have to think out of the box and think bigger, a more appropriate question would be: "Would Lufthansa ever abandon SFO for SJC?" Number 14 most populous US city for the Number 10. *A partner UAL can serve it's customers at its SFO hub, Lufthansa could be the big fish in the smaller airport and put its customers closer to the Valley.
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Originally Posted by danielonn
(Post 20331344)
Do you think Lufthansa could add San Jose CA as a new city and add flights to Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Munich? With JFK and EWR having LH flights I don't see why SJC couldn't support another LH destination. It would have to be on their Airbus 340 or possibly 747-800 aircraft.
If they could have a 4:00 PM departure time to Frankfurt a 5:00 PM flight to Berlin a 7:00 PM to Dusseldorf and a 8:30 PM flight to Munich that would really bring the "Non Stop You" home. Why not have nonstop flights from Cologne to Quito, after all there is this flower shop in downtown Cologne that sells tulips from Ecuador? |
Originally Posted by San Gottardo
(Post 20331412)
Why not have nonstop flights from Cologne to Quito, after all there is this flower shop in downtown Cologne that sells tulips from Ecuador?
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Originally Posted by danielonn
(Post 20331344)
If they could have a 4:00 PM departure time to Frankfurt a 5:00 PM flight to Berlin a 7:00 PM to Dusseldorf and a 8:30 PM flight to Munich that would really bring the "Non Stop You" home....
:D |
Originally Posted by IAN-UK
(Post 20331687)
... and hasten the departure of Lufthansa's current management team
:D |
Originally Posted by N1003U
(Post 20331720)
Some might consider that a positive development...:D
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I don't see any way such a suggestion could even be taken seriously. Roughly 40 percent of LH's passengers on the SFO-MUC and SFO-FRA routes aren't from the Bay Area but connecting passengers. How would SJC be able to supply those?
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Originally Posted by danielonn
(Post 20331344)
Do you think Lufthansa could add San Jose CA as a new city and add flights to Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Munich? With JFK and EWR having LH flights I don't see why SJC couldn't support another LH destination. It would have to be on their Airbus 340 or possibly 747-800 aircraft.
If they could have a 4:00 PM departure time to Frankfurt a 5:00 PM flight to Berlin a 7:00 PM to Dusseldorf and a 8:30 PM flight to Munich that would really bring the "Non Stop You" home. |
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