FRA-TLV going from L/H to S/H - How do you feel about it? [merged]
Jul 14, 2012, 9:41 am
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Jul 15, 2012, 12:45 am
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by the way...last time i checked (last year) Iberia J S/H on A319 to TLV has nice J seats (but if you got the flight with the A340 that's even better)
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Jul 16, 2012, 1:29 am
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I can confirm the Iberia J on A319 is quite good - not a LH product by any mean but not bad at all. I manage to sleep quite well in that seat when taking the late flight from MAD to TLV. The A340 is flown earlier in the day - much better proper LH J seat.
Jul 16, 2012, 10:43 pm
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There are some rumours on the BA board that BA will shortly go to a 321 for LHR-TLV. But apparently in a new configuration, 2 class, with fully flat seats. Seems to be a new mid-haul product resulting from the bmi integration.
Jul 17, 2012, 3:10 am
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Indeed, plus the rumours say flights will go 3 times daily.
This is a very different story than LH's move (if true) as LHR are talking about downgrading the route to a S/H service.
Jul 17, 2012, 9:42 am
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Dear Ariel, with the beginning of the winter flight schedule on October 28th. Lufthansa will offer direct flights to Tel Aviv from Berlin, Frankfurt and Munich on Airbus A321 aircraft. / John
Jul 17, 2012, 12:55 pm
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Well, this just plain sucks. Where in the region will they still operate three class planes? I know of RUH, DXB, and AUH. Anywhere else? And is there reason to believe that any of these destinations will be changed as well?
Jul 17, 2012, 2:45 pm
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Let's just hope that Swiss doesn't lose their mind as well.
Jul 17, 2012, 2:53 pm
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If this is true LH's booking site has not been updated. Dummy bookings on random dates in November show LH686/687 and LH690/691 being operated by the A333 while LH688/689 MUC-TLV will be on the A321.
Jul 17, 2012, 2:58 pm
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Jul 18, 2012, 3:36 am
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does any one know if it's just a change for the winter time table. or something permanent?
and now also BA?! terrible. i'm not a big flyer but i save miles for J\F flights to Europe from TLV...
First my OK-Plus account became pretty worthless so i had to use them on KLM crappy J, and last week LH took my dream of F....and now BA!!
not good couple of week's for Photographer2012....
Jul 18, 2012, 4:33 am
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I wonder if LH will implement something similar to the AF offer for flights without "P"(First) class: 300 EUR to use ground services if you are Plat (=SEN) or 800 EUR otherwise. It could be a way to keep a few customers in the FCL and FCT after they cull 6000 HONs in 2014 
Jul 18, 2012, 11:00 am
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Otherwise, they will lose a large number of their premium customers, HONs and also me
Jul 18, 2012, 11:04 am
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LH should install better C class seating to TLV, CAI, AMM and BEY similar to what BA will introduce on these routes on their A321:
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...g-on-bmi-a321s
Otherwise, they will lose a large number of their premium customers, HONs and also me
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...g-on-bmi-a321s
Otherwise, they will lose a large number of their premium customers, HONs and also me
Jul 19, 2012, 3:45 am
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With LH and BA dropping F to TLV it certainly looks like the demand for paid F to/from TLV is weak? As for the 'premium C on narrowbody' concept... OS tried it to the middle east, and it flopped big time, good luck to BA if they can get it right. BD certainly tried hard with a better A32S product. LX is already subbing A32S with a NEK product to TLV whenever they have tech issues with the A340/330, so that tells a certain story.