Whats the logic? Asuuming there is logic when it comes to LH

Old Jul 16, 12, 6:11 am
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Angry Whats the logic? Assuming there is logic when it comes to LH

I fail to see the logic in this:
If you travel LH Y-class and bring an extra bag they charge you 100USD.
If you travel LH C-class and bring an axtra bag they charge you 200USD.

(this is based on travel DEN-FRA)

So the passenger who pays the least for the ticket, pays the least for an extra bag.

Am I just stupid - or is there a (LH-style) logic to this?

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Old Jul 16, 12, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by 747400F View Post
I fail to see the logic in this:
If you travel LH Y-class and bring an extra bag they charge you 100USD.
If you travel LH C-class and bring an axtra bag they charge you 200USD.

(this is based on travel DEN-FRA)

So the passenger who pay the least pays the least for an extra bag.

Am I just stupid - or is there a (LH-style) logic to this?
Your information is not correct.

http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p..._450411539.pdf
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Old Jul 16, 12, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by GK1998 View Post

Why?

The prices I quoted are mentioned in your link (did you see page 3?)
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Old Jul 16, 12, 6:43 am
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When was the ticket issued?

P.S. I think it's some kind of concession since on flights to/from the US baggage allowance used to be more generous under the piece concept. When they standardised allowance from the previous weight concept in most part of the world to the weight concept, Economy passengers to/from the US lost out. It looks like they are now offering a special price for passengers to/from the US and Canada.

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Old Jul 16, 12, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by 747400F View Post
I fail to see the logic in this:
If you travel LH Y-class and bring an extra bag they charge you 100USD.
If you travel LH C-class and bring an axtra bag they charge you 200USD.

(this is based on travel DEN-FRA)

So the passenger who pays the least for the ticket, pays the least for an extra bag.

Am I just stupid - or is there a (LH-style) logic to this?
I am afraid you did not read the guidelines carefully enough:

To summarize:

Y: 1 bag free (23kg)
C: 2 bags free (32kg)

So if you travel with 2 bags:
-> In Y pay extra 100 (for additional 23) reduced price for second piece
-> In C pay nothing (as it already includes the second piece)

If you travel with three bags (assuming cheapest up to 23kg)
-> In Y pay another 200 (total = 300)
-> In C pay 200 (total = 200)
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Old Jul 16, 12, 6:58 am
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Well it depends how you look at it. The reduced price in the quoted PDF applies to the second checked bag only. The second bag is already free for C-class - see here.

Edit: Primetime 23 beat me to it with more details as well.
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Originally Posted by 747400F View Post
May 21st 2012
Different rates apply for ticket issued before June 1st 2012.

For tickets issued before 1 June 2012 the old rules and charges will continue to apply. Details of these are available on the following page:
Excess and special baggage for tickets issued before 1 June 2012 (PDF)
The actual rules are here:
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...ia_1084660.pdf

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Old Jul 16, 12, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by 747400F View Post
I fail to see the logic in this:
If you travel LH Y-class and bring an extra bag they charge you 100USD.
If you travel LH C-class and bring an axtra bag they charge you 200USD.

(this is based on travel DEN-FRA)

So the passenger who pays the least for the ticket, pays the least for an extra bag.

Am I just stupid - or is there a (LH-style) logic to this?
You always pay USD 200 for the third bag.
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Old Jul 16, 12, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by 747400F View Post
Am I just stupid - or is there a (LH-style) logic to this?
I think you got your answer.... No specific LH logic here, just common sense
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Old Jul 16, 12, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by 747400F View Post
I fail to see the logic in this:
If you travel LH Y-class and bring an extra bag they charge you 100USD.
If you travel LH C-class and bring an axtra bag they charge you 200USD.

(this is based on travel DEN-FRA)

So the passenger who pays the least for the ticket, pays the least for an extra bag.

Am I just stupid - or is there a (LH-style) logic to this?
No need to give up....but to be honest I don't see where the problem is.

If you fly Y, 1 bag is for free, if you fly C, 2 bags etc. Whatever exceeds the 158cm or the baggage pieces/weight allowance = $ or or
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Old Jul 16, 12, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by 747400F View Post
I fail to see the logic in this:
If you travel LH Y-class and bring an extra bag they charge you 100USD.
If you travel LH C-class and bring an axtra bag they charge you 200USD.

(this is based on travel DEN-FRA)

So the passenger who pays the least for the ticket, pays the least for an extra bag.

Am I just stupid - or is there a (LH-style) logic to this?
Even if these were the right prices then this seems quite normal marketing principles. Those who can pay more pay more.

When buying a car metallic paint for something like a Skoda is a cheaper option than metallic paint on a BMW. The price for the extras does not have to be related to the actual cost but what the market will bear.
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Old Jul 16, 12, 12:34 pm
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Please read what's been answered already... the OP apparently didn't know or see that in C the 2nd bag is free as well.

So your car story isn't relevant.
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Old Jul 17, 12, 12:29 am
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Thank you for your answers.
Yes I did know that the second bag is free in C-class.

My point is:
First bag over the limit is twice as expensive in C-class as in cattle class - that to me does not seem logical. ie the guy who buys the cheapest of the cheapest y-class tickets takes his extra bag for 100USD, the girl who flyes the most expensive c-class tickets pays double that for her first extra bag.
Sorry guys, you gotta be German to understand that logic.

(yes I know this applies to flights ex North America only)
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Old Jul 17, 12, 12:48 am
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You can twist the facts to make your case I guess. As people have already said, the third bag costs 200 no matter what class you travel. Seems perfectly logical to me.....

Unless you are moving somewhere 3 bags is really too much and I figure they are trying to prevent a lot of people doing that, not that many need it.

And are you just complaining or do you actually plan to travel with 3 bags?
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