Lufthansa First Award seats availability [for partner FFPs outside of M&M]
#316
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,509
I have a question. I am checking award availability for July on LH to FRA from US (MIA, IAD, JFK) in F, but if F is available, it is always US-MUC-FRA (no direct flight to FRA), business class is available everyday. Is it norm? I prefer to fly to FRA directly (to use a FCT). Does Lufthansa keeps F seats to FRA until last minute?
#317
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
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Posts: 26,062
I have a question. I am checking award availability for July on LH to FRA from US (MIA, IAD, JFK) in F, but if F is available, it is always US-MUC-FRA (no direct flight to FRA), business class is available everyday. Is it norm? I prefer to fly to FRA directly (to use a FCT). Does Lufthansa keeps F seats to FRA until last minute?
#318
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BTS/VIE
Programs: LH MM**, HH Silver
Posts: 2,275
I have a question. I am checking award availability for July on LH to FRA from US (MIA, IAD, JFK) in F, but if F is available, it is always US-MUC-FRA (no direct flight to FRA), business class is available everyday. Is it norm? I prefer to fly to FRA directly (to use a FCT). Does Lufthansa keeps F seats to FRA until last minute?
#319
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Melbourne
Programs: LifeMiles, AA, SQ
Posts: 37
Expertflyer pinged me when a seat opened up. I checked United's site - it found a seat.
I checked Lifemiles - not there. On two separate destinations. How do I understand if these seats will be released to Lifemiles or not right now - i'm trying to run down these points since I have only 500 M&M points left.
Otherwise I'm not really sure how to book with Lifemiles if they don't get the same availability :/
I checked Lifemiles - not there. On two separate destinations. How do I understand if these seats will be released to Lifemiles or not right now - i'm trying to run down these points since I have only 500 M&M points left.
Otherwise I'm not really sure how to book with Lifemiles if they don't get the same availability :/
#320
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 6km East of EPAYE
Programs: UA Silver, AA Platinum, AS & DL GM Marriott TE, Hilton Gold
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#322
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 6km East of EPAYE
Programs: UA Silver, AA Platinum, AS & DL GM Marriott TE, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,582
#323
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: Mileage Plus, Miles and More, Miles and Bonus, HHonors, Starwood, Hyatt
Posts: 54
#324
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA, France
Programs: LH HON****, AF/KL Gold; HHilton Diamond; Marriott Gold; IHG Platinium; Avis PresClub
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#325
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Broomfield, CO
Programs: AA Plat; Starwood Gold
Posts: 48
I'm sure this has been answered before but my searches didn't result in me finding the answer.
I have booked in June BOS-FRA-MUC-BKK-HKG with the BOS-FRA and FRA-MUC portions in LH, the rest on TG. The entire trip was booked with United miles for "First Saver Award" of 130k miles each. The LH portions are booked into Business (I) and the LH portions are in First (O). I know LH doesn't release O to partners until last minute, but checking this routing for the next week or so, it shows O class available for the BOS-FRA flight, at the same 130k mile "price" for the entire BOS-HKG routing.
My question is, if (IF!) O becomes available closer to my departure date, how can I request to be moved from Business to First, since I've already provided the 130,000 miles per person that is required for First when it is available. I hope United doesn't force me to pay the award change fee, because no flights are changing and I wouldn't be using any more or less miles, just moving from I to O if it becomes available. I hope my question is clear.
The unusual routing is so I can get as many 747 flights in as possible
I have booked in June BOS-FRA-MUC-BKK-HKG with the BOS-FRA and FRA-MUC portions in LH, the rest on TG. The entire trip was booked with United miles for "First Saver Award" of 130k miles each. The LH portions are booked into Business (I) and the LH portions are in First (O). I know LH doesn't release O to partners until last minute, but checking this routing for the next week or so, it shows O class available for the BOS-FRA flight, at the same 130k mile "price" for the entire BOS-HKG routing.
My question is, if (IF!) O becomes available closer to my departure date, how can I request to be moved from Business to First, since I've already provided the 130,000 miles per person that is required for First when it is available. I hope United doesn't force me to pay the award change fee, because no flights are changing and I wouldn't be using any more or less miles, just moving from I to O if it becomes available. I hope my question is clear.
The unusual routing is so I can get as many 747 flights in as possible

#326
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN**
Posts: 46,673
United has to update/reissue your ticket after changing the booking class, no way around it. LH will not touch your ticket and transport you in I irregardless of the underlying O fare.
#327
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 21
I have a few questions about some issues I've had while looking for space on the Aeroplan site. ( I know it becomes avail T-14 days out)
First, I was looking for space between ORD-FRA on a certain day and no space showed available, I then searched ORD-MUC and space showed available from ORD-FRA-MUC on the flight I was originally looking for between ORD-FRA. why would this be?
Second, I tried comparing space between the United site and the Aeroplan site and space was showing available on United but not with Aeroplan for the same day. If I understand correctly from other posts space opens to partners between 9-9:30pm pst but that still would not explain this discrepancy?
Finally, I looked for space for one person and it didn't show available, then I ran a search for two people and it did show available. Why would this be?
Again this is all on the aeroplan site. Thanks in advance for your help.
First, I was looking for space between ORD-FRA on a certain day and no space showed available, I then searched ORD-MUC and space showed available from ORD-FRA-MUC on the flight I was originally looking for between ORD-FRA. why would this be?
Second, I tried comparing space between the United site and the Aeroplan site and space was showing available on United but not with Aeroplan for the same day. If I understand correctly from other posts space opens to partners between 9-9:30pm pst but that still would not explain this discrepancy?
Finally, I looked for space for one person and it didn't show available, then I ran a search for two people and it did show available. Why would this be?
Again this is all on the aeroplan site. Thanks in advance for your help.
#329
Senior Moderator, Moderator: Community Buzz and Ambassador: Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 150km from MAN
Programs: LH SEN** HH Diamond
Posts: 29,119
I can't see any F award for LAX-MUC on April 10th on M&M though I can find one F award seat on April 11th.
ExpertFlyer doesn't show F award on either 10th or 11th.
#330
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London, Gibraltar, Canada
Programs: BA, AA, LH, AV, VS
Posts: 10
If anyone is interested, F award availability MUC-YUL available on LifeMiles and is wide open from now until early next year, almost every day. I have just booked 4 dates. Strangely, I cannot see this availability on Aeroplan and it doesn't show up on ExpertFlyer searches. MUC-YYZ continues to show availability on most days 14 days out. I have flown the Montreal route twice and I was the only passenger in F both times.