Lufthansa First Award seats availability [for partner FFPs outside of M&M]
Jun 10, 2012, 3:31 am
#106
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Jun 10, 2012, 4:32 am
#107
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Jun 13, 2012, 10:50 am
#109
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Just snagged a F award seat on LH419 (the new 748i) for tomorrow night - can't wait! I flew the new LX F last summer and am looking forward to compare products. For what its worth I used UA miles.
Jun 19, 2012, 2:16 am
#110
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Numerous speculations but no real answers in Luckys latest blog regurgitation:
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemil...-availability/
My guess is the fake availability is because the blocking that LH manages using POS logic fails when general queries are made by AC & UA web engines.
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemil...-availability/
My guess is the fake availability is because the blocking that LH manages using POS logic fails when general queries are made by AC & UA web engines.
Jun 19, 2012, 7:22 pm
#111
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Numerous speculations but no real answers in Luckys latest blog regurgitation:
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemil...-availability/
My guess is the fake availability is because the blocking that LH manages using POS logic fails when general queries are made by AC & UA web engines.
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemil...-availability/
My guess is the fake availability is because the blocking that LH manages using POS logic fails when general queries are made by AC & UA web engines.
O is F class award.
I was once stuck in SIN returning on LH C, on a UA award booked in F with that segment in C.
On that day, I could see O space on LH wth KVS.
I went to the airport and the agent confirmed that LH had 2 O class seats open.
I had to call UA to change my ticket and after half an hour of an intl roam call, I found that even with a manual request (the long sell) there was no availability to partners for the same space.
So LH does block with POS and that is how they release less inventory for partners than their members. They have just expanded their F class blocking a bit more now.
Jun 20, 2012, 1:18 am
#112
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The trick in such situations is to ask the LH ticket desk to change your booking from I to O and then call UA/US to reissue your ticket. Confuses the UA/US agents a bit, but it works.
Jun 20, 2012, 8:09 am
#113
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Another question- is there a specific time of day 2 weeks out that LH releases the F space? Is it exactly 2 weeks before the flight time itself, or something like midnight FRA time, or what? I'm monitoring a segment and am seeing F seats show up and disappear rather quickly (often intraday), so I want to maximize my chances of grabbing the day I want.
Jun 20, 2012, 9:11 am
#114
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The previous poster was referring to a situation at the airport. The ticket agent can do this as described if the ticket is priced for an O award but with a few I segments. I doubt an agent would do this for an I award.
AFAIK the new LH inventories are loaded at noon UTC.
AFAIK the new LH inventories are loaded at noon UTC.
Jun 20, 2012, 9:13 am
#115
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The previous poster was referring to a situation at the airport. The ticket agent can do this as described if the ticket is priced for an O award but with a few I segments. I doubt an agent would do this for an I award.
AFAIK the new LH inventories are loaded at noon UTC.
AFAIK the new LH inventories are loaded at noon UTC.
Jun 20, 2012, 2:54 pm
#116
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The previous poster was referring to a situation at the airport. The ticket agent can do this as described if the ticket is priced for an O award but with a few I segments. I doubt an agent would do this for an I award.
AFAIK the new LH inventories are loaded at noon UTC.
AFAIK the new LH inventories are loaded at noon UTC.
Jun 21, 2012, 1:50 am
#117
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UA loads the A+ (AC/UA/OS/LX/LH) eastbound inventories according to their schedule, so that may be what you are seeing.
Jun 21, 2012, 8:40 am
#118
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This phantom award availability and then having to deal with UA's customer service is not fun. I just saw F available for the day I need on LH418. It's a bit more than 2 weeks out, though. I call UA, they can't see it. They transfer me to web support. They can't see it (or speak English). Sigh. Hopefully it becomes available. F looks wide open.
Jun 21, 2012, 9:34 am
#120
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This phantom award availability and then having to deal with UA's customer service is not fun. I just saw F available for the day I need on LH418. It's a bit more than 2 weeks out, though. I call UA, they can't see it. They transfer me to web support. They can't see it (or speak English). Sigh. Hopefully it becomes available. F looks wide open.