Lufthansa First Award seats availability [for partner FFPs outside of M&M]
#391
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA, France
Programs: LH HON*****, AF/KL Gold; HHilton Diamond; Marriott Gold; IHG Platinium; Avis PresClub
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#392
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: UA:1k; MR: PLT; Hilton: Gold
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#393
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
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Most likely on the end of UA and AC, as it wouldn't make sense for LH to block availability for them but not other *A ffp's. Especially with AC, it's probably due to the Swiss F debacle from several months ago.
#394
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
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LH Doesn't block anyone, they just have a different inventory logic for some carriers, for example AV's office IDs see different things than SQ. Sometimes the list gets reset, like it did last week.
#395
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Sacramento
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, HH Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Amtrak Select
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Seeing some LH J availability months in advance on UA that wasn't there a day or two ago. Wonder if that's got anything to do with this, or just coincidental. Is J in advance with LH common on UA?
#396
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
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J in advance is with LH is quite common, so I doubt it has anything to do with increased F availability. On the other hand, J availability in advance on UA metal is arguably as rare as LH F which is quite sad.
#397
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: HKG/YVR/LAX
Programs: MPC GR, GC Jade, OZ DM, MVP GO, AA EXP, TK Elite, HH Diamond, Marriot Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 235
Hi is May/June months popular months? I'm trying to look for F award space for 2019 and seeing nothing for all of May or whatever available dates that is book able for June.
Been checking every day but only Business Flex is showing..i'm trying to book with M&M as I read that partner airlines won't get seats release until T-14 but I'm surpirse I'm a whole year away and not seeing anything! or am I doing something wrong?
ideally looking to do FRA - LAX but flexiable to fly to anywhere in N.America that has F but all the routes I'm entering in shows only Business Flex..
Been checking every day but only Business Flex is showing..i'm trying to book with M&M as I read that partner airlines won't get seats release until T-14 but I'm surpirse I'm a whole year away and not seeing anything! or am I doing something wrong?
ideally looking to do FRA - LAX but flexiable to fly to anywhere in N.America that has F but all the routes I'm entering in shows only Business Flex..
#398
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 15
If a flight shows F3A0 2-3 days before travel, is it highly likely to open up F (O) award space, or low likelihood?
If it is likely to open up F award space, then does it happen at a set time of day, or do I just keep checking every few hours?
If it is likely to open up F award space, then does it happen at a set time of day, or do I just keep checking every few hours?
Last edited by HPC; Nov 29, 2018 at 4:28 am
#399
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
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Just want to remind you that Asina Club does not let you book flights within 72 hours. Must be at least 3 days away!
#400
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 15
It is question of when to blink: does F3 (or F2) with 2-3 days to go mean high enough likelihood that F award space will open up and thus I can keep ignoring my Plan B? (I have a fixed date when I need to travel.)
Or is the likelhood so low that I should just book my plan B now?
#401
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I'm hoping to use SQ Krisflyer miles for this award redemption.
It is question of when to blink: does F3 (or F2) with 2-3 days to go mean high enough likelihood that F award space will open up and thus I can keep ignoring my Plan B? (I have a fixed date when I need to travel.)
Or is the likelhood so low that I should just book my plan B now?
It is question of when to blink: does F3 (or F2) with 2-3 days to go mean high enough likelihood that F award space will open up and thus I can keep ignoring my Plan B? (I have a fixed date when I need to travel.)
Or is the likelhood so low that I should just book my plan B now?
or none, a colleague of mine got a seat to LAX that was F1, waitlist cleared night before the flight.
#403
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 336
Hi,
I am trying to find availability for LH F or LX F to India in mid December using SQ KF miles. Unfortunately my travel dates aren't flexible. I see some availability in early December on LX and LH on random dates to a couple of Indian routes. This is showing up on SQ website, Expertflyer and also on united. There is also availability showing going TO Europe on LX F on SQ, UA and AI websites. However I am unable to find anything for flights coming back. For the date I need the Indian routes are showing F5 A2 and F7 A5 and F8 A0. Is it likely for 2 seats to open up closer to the date? We are of course more than T-14 days away as of now and I am checking multiple times a day since there is a possibility of LX F also. Is there a better way to check for LX F than United and/or AI? SQ online search tends to show the India-EU routings but never returns anything for the EU-India routes which is something to do with the way their search behaves.
How likely is that LH F space might open up? How about LX? Currently I am only looking at routes out of FRA for LH and ZRH for LX on the A333. Any other routes I am missing?
I am trying to find availability for LH F or LX F to India in mid December using SQ KF miles. Unfortunately my travel dates aren't flexible. I see some availability in early December on LX and LH on random dates to a couple of Indian routes. This is showing up on SQ website, Expertflyer and also on united. There is also availability showing going TO Europe on LX F on SQ, UA and AI websites. However I am unable to find anything for flights coming back. For the date I need the Indian routes are showing F5 A2 and F7 A5 and F8 A0. Is it likely for 2 seats to open up closer to the date? We are of course more than T-14 days away as of now and I am checking multiple times a day since there is a possibility of LX F also. Is there a better way to check for LX F than United and/or AI? SQ online search tends to show the India-EU routings but never returns anything for the EU-India routes which is something to do with the way their search behaves.
How likely is that LH F space might open up? How about LX? Currently I am only looking at routes out of FRA for LH and ZRH for LX on the A333. Any other routes I am missing?
#404
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Hi,
I am trying to find availability for LH F or LX F to India in mid December using SQ KF miles. Unfortunately my travel dates aren't flexible. I see some availability in early December on LX and LH on random dates to a couple of Indian routes. This is showing up on SQ website, Expertflyer and also on united. There is also availability showing going TO Europe on LX F on SQ, UA and AI websites. However I am unable to find anything for flights coming back. For the date I need the Indian routes are showing F5 A2 and F7 A5 and F8 A0. Is it likely for 2 seats to open up closer to the date? We are of course more than T-14 days away as of now and I am checking multiple times a day since there is a possibility of LX F also. Is there a better way to check for LX F than United and/or AI? SQ online search tends to show the India-EU routings but never returns anything for the EU-India routes which is something to do with the way their search behaves.
How likely is that LH F space might open up? How about LX? Currently I am only looking at routes out of FRA for LH and ZRH for LX on the A333. Any other routes I am missing?
I am trying to find availability for LH F or LX F to India in mid December using SQ KF miles. Unfortunately my travel dates aren't flexible. I see some availability in early December on LX and LH on random dates to a couple of Indian routes. This is showing up on SQ website, Expertflyer and also on united. There is also availability showing going TO Europe on LX F on SQ, UA and AI websites. However I am unable to find anything for flights coming back. For the date I need the Indian routes are showing F5 A2 and F7 A5 and F8 A0. Is it likely for 2 seats to open up closer to the date? We are of course more than T-14 days away as of now and I am checking multiple times a day since there is a possibility of LX F also. Is there a better way to check for LX F than United and/or AI? SQ online search tends to show the India-EU routings but never returns anything for the EU-India routes which is something to do with the way their search behaves.
How likely is that LH F space might open up? How about LX? Currently I am only looking at routes out of FRA for LH and ZRH for LX on the A333. Any other routes I am missing?
#405
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke on Trent, UK (MAN ), BUE, BKK, DBV
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Hi,
I am trying to find availability for LH F or LX F to India in mid December using SQ KF miles. Unfortunately my travel dates aren't flexible. I see some availability in early December on LX and LH on random dates to a couple of Indian routes. This is showing up on SQ website, Expertflyer and also on united. There is also availability showing going TO Europe on LX F on SQ, UA and AI websites. However I am unable to find anything for flights coming back. For the date I need the Indian routes are showing F5 A2 and F7 A5 and F8 A0. Is it likely for 2 seats to open up closer to the date? We are of course more than T-14 days away as of now and I am checking multiple times a day since there is a possibility of LX F also. Is there a better way to check for LX F than United and/or AI? SQ online search tends to show the India-EU routings but never returns anything for the EU-India routes which is something to do with the way their search behaves.
How likely is that LH F space might open up? How about LX? Currently I am only looking at routes out of FRA for LH and ZRH for LX on the A333. Any other routes I am missing?
I am trying to find availability for LH F or LX F to India in mid December using SQ KF miles. Unfortunately my travel dates aren't flexible. I see some availability in early December on LX and LH on random dates to a couple of Indian routes. This is showing up on SQ website, Expertflyer and also on united. There is also availability showing going TO Europe on LX F on SQ, UA and AI websites. However I am unable to find anything for flights coming back. For the date I need the Indian routes are showing F5 A2 and F7 A5 and F8 A0. Is it likely for 2 seats to open up closer to the date? We are of course more than T-14 days away as of now and I am checking multiple times a day since there is a possibility of LX F also. Is there a better way to check for LX F than United and/or AI? SQ online search tends to show the India-EU routings but never returns anything for the EU-India routes which is something to do with the way their search behaves.
How likely is that LH F space might open up? How about LX? Currently I am only looking at routes out of FRA for LH and ZRH for LX on the A333. Any other routes I am missing?
Only SEN & HON are entitled to F awards on LX.