Lufthansa First Award seats availability [for *A and other partner FFPs]
#271
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Norway
Programs: SK Diamond
Posts: 217
Why? What reason could the possibly have to do that? I remember Ben Schlappig talking at a FTU event about what other carriers such as LM actually had to spend to get that LH F seat, and it isn't much compared to what they sell the miles for.
#273
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: SK*D+Finnair Platinum +BA Gold + KLM Silver+amex centurion+HH Diamond + IHG Platinum
Posts: 146
Lufthansa release more than 2 O-Clas Seats?
Hi,
I´m trying to book 3 First Class tickets with my SAS Points, But I am only able to find 2 seats. The entire cabin has no First Class booking at all on some flights within 10 days, so my question is if that lufthansa is offering more than 2 O-Class seats on any flights anymore?
I have seen that before, but now when I need to book I´m encountering problems.
Thanks for your thoughts
I´m trying to book 3 First Class tickets with my SAS Points, But I am only able to find 2 seats. The entire cabin has no First Class booking at all on some flights within 10 days, so my question is if that lufthansa is offering more than 2 O-Class seats on any flights anymore?
I have seen that before, but now when I need to book I´m encountering problems.
Thanks for your thoughts
#275
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: SK*D+Finnair Platinum +BA Gold + KLM Silver+amex centurion+HH Diamond + IHG Platinum
Posts: 146
So is it better to book those 2seats, and then hopefully they release 1more seat!?
Or are the odds better not to book them, so it is F8 as long as possible so lufthansa might release more seats!?
Or are the odds better not to book them, so it is F8 as long as possible so lufthansa might release more seats!?
#276
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Body in Downtown YYZ, heart and mind elsewhere
Programs: UA 50K, refugee from AC E50K, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 5,098
I would recommend booking. Take what you can take now then hope for the best on the 3rd ticket.
Worst case - you buy a 3rd ticket.
Medium case - you book the 3rd ticket in Business Class.
Best case - LH releases one more O-Class seat.
Worst case - you buy a 3rd ticket.
Medium case - you book the 3rd ticket in Business Class.
Best case - LH releases one more O-Class seat.
#277
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 150km from MAN
Programs: LH SEN** HH Diamond
Posts: 28,919
Have you tried searching on M&M as a SEN? I have been able to find up to 4 F award seats on certain flights in April so more than 2 F award seats must be released on some flights. Fewer award seats may be available (at least initially) if using *A partner miles.
#278
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 33
The view RCyyz presents seems very good, I'd add the possibility to get a seat with a different FF-program.
#279
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DUS
Programs: LH HON
Posts: 681
What I would do in this case, is booking the two seats in O and one more seat in I with waitlist for O. Then you can be sure to be one of the first to get a chance for the third seat. You will be charged 50 € for the change if waitlist gets confirmed. In the worst case you stay with 2 O and 1 I.
#280
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: ZRH
Programs: LX HON Circle
Posts: 3,018
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How to do waitlist on O? Whenever I tried that they told me the WL is good for 24h only and then you need to repeat the process all over again.
Did I talk to the wrong agents?
How to do waitlist on O? Whenever I tried that they told me the WL is good for 24h only and then you need to repeat the process all over again.
Did I talk to the wrong agents?
#281
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DUS
Programs: LH HON
Posts: 681
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How to do waitlist on O? Whenever I tried that they told me the WL is good for 24h only and then you need to repeat the process all over again.
Did I talk to the wrong agents?
How to do waitlist on O? Whenever I tried that they told me the WL is good for 24h only and then you need to repeat the process all over again.
Did I talk to the wrong agents?
#282
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: SK*D+Finnair Platinum +BA Gold + KLM Silver+amex centurion+HH Diamond + IHG Platinum
Posts: 146
So I got my 3 O-class on FRA-PHL, but I am still curios why for example Denver on 7th which has 8F 8A has only 1 O-class, While FRA YYZ has F6A6 and O 3!? Also MUC-IAD has F8A8O2 and FRA-JFK on the 9th has F5A4O2.
I am not very keen o travel trough either PHL or YYC as my final destination is LAS!
Where is the logic? Is it all automatic or is someone physically adding O-class seats and just forget to do that on specific destinations?
I am not very keen o travel trough either PHL or YYC as my final destination is LAS!
Where is the logic? Is it all automatic or is someone physically adding O-class seats and just forget to do that on specific destinations?
#283
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Geneva, Dubai, Paris
Programs: Disillusioned Cent
Posts: 1,872
General question about FRA-LAX: why is it always so difficult to find F award space for this route? I get that it's a popular destination and that it costs "only" 170K miles vs 210K miles for the top Asian cities, but does this justify that the availability for FRA-HND (as an example) is almost always wide open whereas FRA-LAX is the exact opposite?
#284
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Silver; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond; Meliá & HH & Marriott & Radisson Gold
Posts: 5,217
As well as the factors you mention, remember that LH and LX are the only two carriers offering a top rated F service between LAX and Europe. Even if we add AF there are far, far fewer good F seats available each day between LAX and Europe than there are between Europe and TYO (to stay with your example). Given that AF and LX don't open up F award space to most of us, LH is in very high demand and anything they do make available is likely to go quickly.
#285
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Geneva, Dubai, Paris
Programs: Disillusioned Cent
Posts: 1,872
As well as the factors you mention, remember that LH and LX are the only two carriers offering a top rated F service between LAX and Europe. Even if we add AF there are far, far fewer good F seats available each day between LAX and Europe than there are between Europe and TYO (to stay with your example). Given that AF and LX don't open up F award space to most of us, LH is in very high demand and anything they do make available is likely to go quickly.