PittDoc

Thanks for the update. This saves the rest of us from trying. I don't expect the situation will change. US is selling 1/2 price miles again.

Frustrating for all of us BIS miles earners.

A380*G

Perhas the flights are already heavy overbooked so there will be many opups? Or they count on miles/eVoucher upgrades? Also, some revenue F pax is always late with their reservations.

fflyer1

with M&M miles?

G_G

No, with M&M LH420 and LX52 have 4 F awards and LH422 has 3

G_G

and even more for us M&M miles earners

NewbieRunner

Here's another data point. F awards to Japan are relatively easy to find but I've been monitoring *A (upgrade) award availability in August and F awards on LH714 (MUC-NRT) opened up 14 days before departure and on LH710 (FRA-NRT) 8 days before departure.

fflyer1

so which miles are you trying to use? i.e. USDM is not able to book these seats *at all*

nologic

Aug 9th:

LH 424 MUC-BOS is Y9 C9 F7.

LH FRA-BOS is Y9 C9 F5.

LX 52 is Y9 C9 F8.

G_G

M&M miles. Excuse me if I wasn't clear I intend to tell you that he certainly wasn't talking about M&M miles because there was a large availability with M&M

jasonvr

Scored 2xF for tomorrow on LAX-FRA. Replaced my previous LAX-DFW-FRA.

I was positively giddy when I saw it open up. It's a more full cabin (6/8) seeing as we were the ONLY people in F on the DFW-FRA flight, but I think upper deck on the 744 and no connection are definitely worth the change. It doesn't look like we'll get the new F. FRA website says the inbound is being operated by D-ABVX tomorrow, but hey, we still each get two seats.

sp4294

Unlikely! Flew LH490 FRA-SEA yesterday and it was 3/8.
Was previously scheduled on LH470 for FRA-YYZ for today and it was 5/8
Last month flew LH471 YYZ-FRA and it was 4/8
LH seems to like empty F seats!

NA-Flyer

Revenue management smartness

nologic

Yes, he (me) is trying to book using UA MPs.

So, you're saying 2 F seats opened up on a wide open flight only 1 day prior to departure? I presume Swiss is even worse with their inventory allocation, even thought I don't think one seats is booked on LX 52? BA opened its award seats today.

BTW, is LH 424 BOS-MUC on Aug 9 New F or Old F (A346)?

jasonvr

Flight was not what I would consider wide open. Prior to my booking, the first LAX-FRA flight was at F0 (fully booked) and the second flight was F4 (so half booked). In actuality, they opened 3xF on the second flight since after I booked they were still offering another F award. That means they were willing to let the flight go all the way down to F1 if all the F awards had been taken.

They also opened 1 F seat on SFO-FRA (A380) at the same time and it was sitting at F3. This flight booked up fast recently. It was sitting at F8 only a week and a half ago.

No seats were opened on IAH-FRA (A380 which was also at F3. 1 seat was opened on SFO-MUC which was at F4. LAX-MUC was at F1 and no F awards were released.

DEN-FRA and SEA-FRA had been open for multiple awards (2+ F) for several days. YVR-FRA was open even earlier, but 2xF seats were snatched a few days ago. DFW-FRA opened multiple F seats 15 days out.

The LX flights are essentially full in F. SFO-ZRH has been at F0 since 7/31 and LAX-ZRH has been bouncing between F0 and F1 for the last week and half.

nologic

How can I tell if the LH flight from MUC-BOS on Aug 9th is new F or old F?

Also, most of the above commentary applies to LH award inventory? What does LX do if their flights have open F? Right now, LX 52 is showing F8 (isn't that the entire F cabin?).