Nov 18, 2013, 8:34 am
Last edit by: Boeing_747SP
Aircraft with new C seats
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.
Apr 4, 2015, 10:25 am
#1502
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 626
How many a380s with old business?
Lufthansa is showing on their website that the Fra- Mia on April 6th has the old business. Does this mean no premium economy?
Thanks!
Lufthansa is showing on their website that the Fra- Mia on April 6th has the old business. Does this mean no premium economy?
Thanks!
Apr 4, 2015, 7:44 pm
#1503
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: TSE
Programs: Miles and More Senator
Posts: 9
There is one (D-AIMH) in service, the other one (D-AIMA) is undergoing retrofit. The Lufthansa business class checker is showing new business class on April 6 on FRA-MIA.
Apr 5, 2015, 4:50 am
#1504
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: LH HON**, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 61
LH710 on 747-400 upper deck?
Am a bit puzzled my upcoming flight to NRT on LH710 this week. LH business class checker indicates that the new business class is not available although there are seats on the upper deck in a business class configuration. Can this be the old ones?
Apr 5, 2015, 5:46 am
#1505
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: TSE
Programs: Miles and More Senator
Posts: 9
Today LH710 is operated with D-ABVO and yesterday it was operated with D-ABVW and both of those have new C on the upper deck. Since neither of these aircraft have first class seating, I guess one way to double check is to try to book first class tickets on the same flights that you are taking and it should not be possible to book. I think all the old versions have first class located on the upper deck.
Apr 5, 2015, 9:33 pm
#1506
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 188
I just confirmed the C upgrade on the flight MUC-ORD. The C offers rows from 3 to 15. Lufthansa's page says the new business class facilities are not available on this flight. Hmmm. After checking the seatguru, C seat rows from 3-15 are available only on the "new C class" 346 version. A mistake on the lufthansa.com?
Apr 6, 2015, 1:09 am
#1507
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,161
Look if row 10 only has seat DG. If AC HK cannot be seen, the 346 has new C.
PS: seatguru and seatexpert are utter crap (for LH seating atleast).
PS: seatguru and seatexpert are utter crap (for LH seating atleast).
Apr 6, 2015, 4:41 am
#1508
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: LH HON**, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 61
Today LH710 is operated with D-ABVO and yesterday it was operated with D-ABVW and both of those have new C on the upper deck. Since neither of these aircraft have first class seating, I guess one way to double check is to try to book first class tickets on the same flights that you are taking and it should not be possible to book. I think all the old versions have first class located on the upper deck.
Apr 7, 2015, 3:31 am
#1509
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: TSE
Programs: Miles and More Senator
Posts: 9
Apr 8, 2015, 2:26 am
#1510
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Hamburg
Programs: LH SEN, HH Diamond
Posts: 185
Apr 8, 2015, 5:06 am
#1511
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: LH HON**, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 61
Had that favour indeed a few weeks ago on FRA-DXB... Unfortunately this upper deck shows 22 C seats. Still find it strange that the "new business class checker" shows it as "new business class not yet available on this flight". Either a mistake or only the upper deck is retrofitted I guess.
Apr 8, 2015, 6:00 am
#1512
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,633
There is no "upper deck only refit"...
Last edited by curt; Apr 8, 2015 at 10:49 am Reason: Forgot the crucial "no"...
Apr 8, 2015, 8:59 am
#1513
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Hamburg
Programs: LH SEN, HH Diamond
Posts: 185
There's no "upper deck only refit"! Never ever heard about that resp. that is also not possible from technical point of view (e.g. differerent IFE system).
However the C-Class check tool is not 100% accurate as subtype "74Z" is eventually not being recognized as "new C". For examaple whilst D-ABVW solely served the DXB route it also never indicated "new C" although that plane features the new cabin.
But in order to make a long story short -> 22 seats on UD indicates that this plane already got the new cabin
However the C-Class check tool is not 100% accurate as subtype "74Z" is eventually not being recognized as "new C". For examaple whilst D-ABVW solely served the DXB route it also never indicated "new C" although that plane features the new cabin.
But in order to make a long story short -> 22 seats on UD indicates that this plane already got the new cabin
Last edited by Boeing_747SP; Apr 8, 2015 at 9:08 am
Apr 8, 2015, 2:47 pm
#1515
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: LH HON**, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 61
There's no "upper deck only refit"! Never ever heard about that resp. that is also not possible from technical point of view (e.g. differerent IFE system).
However the C-Class check tool is not 100% accurate as subtype "74Z" is eventually not being recognized as "new C". For examaple whilst D-ABVW solely served the DXB route it also never indicated "new C" although that plane features the new cabin.
But in order to make a long story short -> 22 seats on UD indicates that this plane already got the new cabin
However the C-Class check tool is not 100% accurate as subtype "74Z" is eventually not being recognized as "new C". For examaple whilst D-ABVW solely served the DXB route it also never indicated "new C" although that plane features the new cabin.
But in order to make a long story short -> 22 seats on UD indicates that this plane already got the new cabin
(and back - saw that the configuration on the way back is the same whilst also on that flight the C-class check tool indicates that new C is not available).