New First class retrofit thread
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New First class retrofit thread (last updated 22 Oct 2015)
There is no LH aircraft in service with the old First Class cabin!
MUC – 19 x A346 (new F and C) : 8 x A333 (new F and C)
No longhaul Boeing aircraft, A343 or A380 is based in MUC
FRA - 14 x A380 (new F and C) : 19 x B748i (new F and C) : 3 x B744 : 3 x A346 (2 being retrofitted) : 9 x A333
All A343s are or will be turned into two class aircraft without the F cabin.
All 13 x 744 (D-ABTK/TL/VM/VO/VP/VR/VS/VT/VU/VW/VX/VY/VZ) have new C but no F.
DUS - no aircraft with F at present but in the W15/16 season a MUC based A333 will operate MUC-EWR-DUS-EWR-MUC with First Class.
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Check the following thread about aircraft with the new Business seats:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...outes-etc.html
MUC – 19 x A346 (new F and C) : 8 x A333 (new F and C)
No longhaul Boeing aircraft, A343 or A380 is based in MUC
FRA - 14 x A380 (new F and C) : 19 x B748i (new F and C) : 3 x B744 : 3 x A346 (2 being retrofitted) : 9 x A333
All A343s are or will be turned into two class aircraft without the F cabin.
All 13 x 744 (D-ABTK/TL/VM/VO/VP/VR/VS/VT/VU/VW/VX/VY/VZ) have new C but no F.
DUS - no aircraft with F at present but in the W15/16 season a MUC based A333 will operate MUC-EWR-DUS-EWR-MUC with First Class.
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Check the following thread about aircraft with the new Business seats:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...outes-etc.html
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Oct 22, 15 at 9:50 pm Reason: no more old F cabin! VS is back; VM is back; VH, VK, VL & VN retired; F service DUS-EWR in W15/16
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Flight24.com accurate??
Hi there,
I am going to be flying the LAX-MUC-LAX route and i took a look at the aircrafts based in MUC.
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
I am going to be flying the LAX-MUC-LAX route and i took a look at the aircrafts based in MUC.
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
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I am going to be flying the LAX-MUC-LAX route and i took a look at the aircrafts based in MUC.
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-27 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-26 by D-AIHR (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-25 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-24 by D-AIHR (A346)
D-AIHW is on its way to LAX today and D-AIHR seems to be on its way to PVG. You can actually track its progress live on flightradar24.

Here's a screenshot.

Last edited by NewbieRunner; Mar 3, 12 at 6:21 am
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No, flight24 is not 100% accurate. However if you check LH452 you will find the following.
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-27 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-26 by D-AIHR (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-25 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-24 by D-AIHR (A346)
D-AIHW is on its way to LAX today and D-AIHR seems to be on its way to PVG. You can actually track its progress live on flightradar24.
Here's a screenshot.

LH452 was flown on 2012-02-27 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-26 by D-AIHR (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-25 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-24 by D-AIHR (A346)
D-AIHW is on its way to LAX today and D-AIHR seems to be on its way to PVG. You can actually track its progress live on flightradar24.

Here's a screenshot.

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Took D-AIFE yesterday MUC > EWR.
The new F is great!
I am surprised how rough passengers treat the products - the woman next to me decided to manually push the ottoman back and forth.... Not sure how long until that seat is broken.
The new F is great!
I am surprised how rough passengers treat the products - the woman next to me decided to manually push the ottoman back and forth.... Not sure how long until that seat is broken.
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According to rcs (aka rcs85551) on VFT it sounds like MUC-based 343s and 346s with the new F will be flying to the following destinations as from the end of March.
343: GRU, ICN, SIN
346: LAX, SFO, PEK, PVG, DEL
333 with the new C and possibly new F seats will operate
Between the end of May and end of June: DXB, TLV
Between the beginning of July and end of August: BOM
343: GRU, ICN, SIN
346: LAX, SFO, PEK, PVG, DEL
333 with the new C and possibly new F seats will operate
Between the end of May and end of June: DXB, TLV
Between the beginning of July and end of August: BOM
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I can't, and that's not just because I prefer flying from MUC. As long as you have a small subfleet it's much better to have them in one place, so that you can schedule them reliably. Much better to offer new F 95% of them time on a few routes in MUC and then on and off on various routes.
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