oliver2002

Yep, just be happy about that one...!

divjan

There were rumors that BKK might loose F, not sure if this will happen, for now just imagine that you will have old F.......

jasonvr

I'm guessing that was during the bonanza a few months ago?

HansGolden

Kind of, but the story's even weirder than that. I booked while YYZ-MUC was wide open in F, with four seats available in F. I nabbed four seats on YYZ-MUC on date #1, two seats the next day, and one seat the next. I then made our stopover in Munich, then did all the same day MUC-FRA-BKK. I did four in F, which is what was available on that date for FRA-BKK (and a number of other dates) and did three in C. After that, I made a few tweaks, reissued a few times (it was out of UA Plat account), and one day I noticed the C seats had magically changed to F! I have no idea what happened. At first I was super-suspicious the SHARES (UA) and Amadeus (LH) PNRs were out of sync, because they're still selling two F seats, but I looked up the LH record locator on CheckMyTrip and it's O-class there for all PNRs as well. It'd be a great reimbursement opportunity for some HON Circle person who regularly buys F anyway to buy two F seats on that flight. I guess RM thinks that selling 7 F so far ahead means it's inevitable one will cancel, but RM's not smart enough to know it's a family with all same last names...

ETA: Was the YYZ-MUC bonanza more widespread than just that route? I was amazed FRA-BKK had any LH F so far ahead, but someone told me it was normal for that route. Is that true?

jasonvr

Not normal. MUC-YUL/YYZ had to do with route introductions I believe. But at the same time something was changing on the FRA-BKK route (I think it might have had something to do with the route to KUL as well which was changing). The changes caused things to open up when they normally wouldn't have.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/11/08/lh-seasia-s14/

seacarl

By the way, I really like the new LH F product upstairs on the 744. Having the bed as a fixed flat mattress next to the seat is very sweet. In addition to being good for sleeping, you can use the bed as a shelf for newspapers or to put your computer during meal service, and the storage drawer is very generous. I think it's my favorite version of LH F. It's really too bad that LH plans to remove F from the 744.

seaflyguy

I just reserved two F award seats (using M&M miles) on FRA-SEA for early next January. Is it common for LH to switch a route from three-class to two-class and then force passengers to downgrade? If so, this is a problem for me, since a big reason for flying LH on this route was to use the FCT, and obviously I wouldn't be able to do so if I'm in a C seat.

Should I wait for LH to contact me and then insist that they switch me to a different FRA-xxx flight with F, along with an xxx-SEA connection on UA? Or should I consider proactively switching flights? If so, what are my best options for long (e.g., 10+ hours) FRA-xxx flights to the US where I'm guaranteed not to lose F, and hopefully would have new F while I'm at it?

thexfactor

You're pretty much guaranteed to have F on FRA-SFO/LAX.

Or, you can fly ex MUC in F, and get access to FCT in FRA.

oliver2002

Wait and see (or sea ). Maybe they go back to 3 class service in Winter. The A330s will probably be mostly retrofitted by then. The W14-15 Scheduled will be firmed around July. If your flight is downgraded to two class, you have to contact UA to reroute you.

NewbieRunner

Or perhaps contact LH/M&M since the award was booked with M&M miles?

agjil

Your seats changing from I to O is really odd, but it sounds like the changes are actually in your favor.
I had no idea that FRA-BKK F seats also got released when the YYZ-MUC F seats got released.
Had I known, I might have booked the BKK route as well even though they appear to be the old F seats.
Just out of curiosity, was there any other Asia route that had seats open in F during that time?

italdesign

Need some advice. I'm booked in C to FRA in July (on a F ticket) and am hoping to find F at T-14 days. I'm open to any US airport LH flies to FRA. What's the best way to increase my chance of landing a new F? Are there some airports to avoid that tend to fly old F or are more prone to swap with old F? Thanks for any advice.

Digital01

I'm currently working on booking a from MUC back to ORD and I'm contemplating booking the 346 direct from MUC or spending the extra 100 bucks to connect through FRA (obviously there are other benefits through FRA like the first class terminal which may just make the decision for me I think the only reason I'm considering the MUC flight is that the times are better and one less connection is nice). The later FRA flight has the 744...I realize there are 2 744 yet to be changed to new first and 3 346 yet to be changed....Are these pretty safe routes to get new first on? Which would yall go with? I checked the think on LHs website and it looked like the 346 was pretty consistently new first until a few random days in April....not sure what to do as I really want to fly new first.


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Hetsigehans

Hi, what does it mean when it says new first retro fitted on LH flights?

Whats the difference?

Like this one:

A333 : 11 aircraft with new F, of which 8 were retrofitted.

NewbieRunner

Some aircraft were delivered with new F cabins and therefore not retrofitted.