Jun 2, 15, 1:43 pm
New First class retrofit thread
Apr 11, 14, 12:23 am
#1502
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Originally Posted by JONEZY00
Apologize if this has been reported elsewhere. We were on the flight yesterday BOM-FRA in first. We were commenting to the lead FA how impressive the seats were (having a dedicated bed) she mentioned that she had just heard the all the 747-400's were going to lose the first class cabin and become Y and J (J upstairs and downstairs) the 747-8 would keep their current config. This just could be galley gossip but thought I'd pass it along.
Apr 11, 14, 6:47 am
#1503
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Nothing new, all 744 will be converted to C & Y (and premium eco) starting this autumn.
Apr 14, 14, 10:53 pm
#1504
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Location: LEJ BRU
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Originally Posted by MichielR
D-AIGU with new F was ferried to FRA before/during the strike. Was a nice surprise to have an A343 with new F ex FRA.
I guess they did send this plane to celebrate me as a customer who actually really paid money for his seat.
Apr 15, 14, 9:53 am
#1505
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LH listed TF & TH for sale two weeks ago:
http://speednews.com/aircraft-listin...dNew&Year=1991
TF has 114052 hours (~13 years in the air) and 14345 cylces
TH 112660h & 14247
http://speednews.com/aircraft-listin...dNew&Year=1991
TF has 114052 hours (~13 years in the air) and 14345 cylces
TH 112660h & 14247
Apr 16, 14, 7:00 am
#1506
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Seattle WA
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Do the MUC and FRA based A330s with New First have different IFE systems? I just flew a MUC-based a/c (AIKE, I think) and found its interface with a trackball style pointer hard to use.
I flew AIKK out of FRA earlier this year and swear it had the same IFE controller and software as the A380/New 744... Or am I just imagining that?
(Also the F amenity kit was not as nice on the MUC-based flight)
I flew AIKK out of FRA earlier this year and swear it had the same IFE controller and software as the A380/New 744... Or am I just imagining that?
(Also the F amenity kit was not as nice on the MUC-based flight)
Apr 16, 14, 7:50 am
#1507
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The A330 with retrofitted C have the new RAVE IFE system, the B744, A343 and A330 with new F but old C still have the former eTes and the A380, B748 and four A330 (D-AIKP/Q/R/S) have the Panasonic ex2.
Apr 17, 14, 10:46 am
#1508
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
LH listed TF & TH for sale two weeks ago:
http://speednews.com/aircraft-listin...dNew&Year=1991
TF has 114052 hours (~13 years in the air) and 14345 cylces
TH 112660h & 14247
http://speednews.com/aircraft-listin...dNew&Year=1991
TF has 114052 hours (~13 years in the air) and 14345 cylces
TH 112660h & 14247
Apr 18, 14, 1:07 pm
#1509
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 87
Seattle, Denver, and YVR, seem like a 50/50 propositions at best.
When I check the SEA to FRA it has 2 days new 2-3 days old back and forth. LH is showing the A330 as new and the A340 as old.
How accurate is the LH site (New First)? This site http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/First-Class-Product
Also, how does the A330 compare vs a Denver/YVR routing of new on a 747-4, if that is possible?
Thanks-
When I check the SEA to FRA it has 2 days new 2-3 days old back and forth. LH is showing the A330 as new and the A340 as old.
How accurate is the LH site (New First)? This site http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/First-Class-Product
Also, how does the A330 compare vs a Denver/YVR routing of new on a 747-4, if that is possible?
Thanks-
Last edited by SeisSpeed; Apr 18, 14 at 1:18 pm
Apr 18, 14, 1:15 pm
#1510
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Originally Posted by SeisSpeed
Seattle, Denver, and YVR, seem like a 50/50 propositions at best.
When I check the SEA to FRA it has 2 days new 2-3 days old back and forth. LH is showing the A330 as new and the A340 as old.
How accurate is the LH site?
Also, how does the A330 compare vs a Denver/YVR routing of new on a 747-4, if that is possible?
Thanks-
When I check the SEA to FRA it has 2 days new 2-3 days old back and forth. LH is showing the A330 as new and the A340 as old.
How accurate is the LH site?
Also, how does the A330 compare vs a Denver/YVR routing of new on a 747-4, if that is possible?
Thanks-
Apr 18, 14, 1:38 pm
#1511
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 87
Originally Posted by sp4294
SEA is losing F as of June(?) - so a kinda moot after that. A333 is nice if new F (7/12 at FRA), but not as nice as B744 UD with seat/bed combo.
I will be flying before June...but good to know as I have had good success with F out of SEA and the cabin is usually almost empty I just bring my own movies and enjoy old F. The only thing I didn't like as much as departing out of SFO is the 1pm flight time.
If the LH site is accurate you can get YVR through the end of this month on certain days and beginning of May in 747-4 new F. So, if it is accurate the bed option out of YVR would be ^
I would kind of regret going up there for the bed/seat combo and get stuck with old F.
Apr 18, 14, 6:25 pm
#1512
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Originally Posted by SeisSpeed
How accurate is the LH site (New First)? This site http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/First-Class-Product
Apr 18, 14, 7:13 pm
#1513
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Originally Posted by SeisSpeed
Seattle, Denver, and YVR, seem like a 50/50 propositions at best.
When I check the SEA to FRA it has 2 days new 2-3 days old back and forth. LH is showing the A330 as new and the A340 as old.
How accurate is the LH site (New First)? This site http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/First-Class-Product
Also, how does the A330 compare vs a Denver/YVR routing of new on a 747-4, if that is possible?
Thanks-
When I check the SEA to FRA it has 2 days new 2-3 days old back and forth. LH is showing the A330 as new and the A340 as old.
How accurate is the LH site (New First)? This site http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/First-Class-Product
Also, how does the A330 compare vs a Denver/YVR routing of new on a 747-4, if that is possible?
Thanks-
Apr 19, 14, 9:03 pm
#1514
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 87
Originally Posted by echino
The LH tool showed old F for FRA-YVR today, Apr.18. Got a pleasant surprise with new F! So the tool was wrong.
How did you like e seat/bed?
...for someone trying to get new F "the tool was wrong" is not good.
Apr 19, 14, 9:05 pm
#1515
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 87
Originally Posted by LufthansaFlyer
You always run the risk of last minute equipment changes so the tool is not going to be absolutely perfect sometimes.
