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Old Jun 4, 2019, 12:29 am
  #1936  
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Are you just flying into ZRH or continuing to LHR? If so, then D is available...

Code:
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an6junbomzrh/alx155/kc

AN6JUNBOMZRH/ALX155/KC
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** ZRH ZURICH.CH                  2 TH 06JUN 0000
 1   LX 155  J5 C4 DL ZL PL       /BOM 2 ZRH    0055    0615  E0/333       8:50

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an6junbomlon/alx155,lx/kc

AN6JUNBOMLON/ALX155,LX/KC                                                       
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** LON LONDON.GB                  2 TH 06JUN 0000  
 1   LX 155  J5 C5 D2 ZL PL       /BOM 2 ZRH    0055    0615  E0/333            
     LX 316  J5 C5 D2 ZL PL       /ZRH   LHR 2  0705    0755  E0/320      11:30
Business doesn't look to be oversold:

Code:

SM LX 0155/C/06JUNBOMZRH/V
SM LX  0155  C 06JUN BOMZRH        333
         A  B     D  G     K 
C  4     +        /  /     +    4  C
   5     /  +     +  +     +    5   
   6     +        +  +     +    6   
   7     +  +     +  +     +    7   
   8 <   +        +  +     +  > 8   
   9 <   +  +     +  +     V  > 9   
  10 <   .        +  +     +  > 10  
  11 <   +  +     /  +     V  > 11  
  12 <   +        +  +     +  > 12  
  14 <   +  +     U  +     V  > 14  
         A  B     D  G     K 
 
 
 
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT 
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET 
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

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sm/1/f/v

SM LX 0155/F/06JUNBOMZRH/V                                                      
SM LX  0155  F 06JUN BOMZRH        333                                          
        A     D  G     K                                                        
F  1    C     +  +     C   1  F                                                 
   2    +     .  .     P   2                                                    
        A     D  G     K                                                        
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT               
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET               
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR              
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR              
Y CHARGEABLE
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Old Jun 4, 2019, 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Are you just flying into ZRH or continuing to LHR? If so, then D is available...



Code:
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an6junbomzrh/alx155/kc

AN6JUNBOMZRH/ALX155/KC
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** ZRH ZURICH.CH 2 TH 06JUN 0000
1 LX 155 J5 C4 DL ZL PL /BOM 2 ZRH 0055 0615 E0/333 8:50

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an6junbomlon/alx155,lx/kc

AN6JUNBOMLON/ALX155,LX/KC
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** LON LONDON.GB 2 TH 06JUN 0000
1 LX 155 J5 C5 D2 ZL PL /BOM 2 ZRH 0055 0615 E0/333
LX 316 J5 C5 D2 ZL PL /ZRH LHR 2 0705 0755 E0/320 11:30


Business doesn't look to be oversold:




Code:
SM LX 0155/C/06JUNBOMZRH/V
SM LX 0155 C 06JUN BOMZRH 333
A B D G K
C 4 + / / + 4 C
5 / + + + + 5
6 + + + + 6
7 + + + + + 7
8 < + + + + > 8
9 < + + + + V > 9
10 < . + + + > 10
11 < + + / + V > 11
12 < + + + + > 12
14 < + + U + V > 14
A B D G K



. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

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sm/1/f/v

SM LX 0155/F/06JUNBOMZRH/V
SM LX 0155 F 06JUN BOMZRH 333
A D G K
F 1 C + + C 1 F
2 + . . P 2
A D G K











. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

Continuing to LHR indeed. Only C was available as of last night, but this makes it an easy change.

Thank you!
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Old Jun 4, 2019, 4:53 pm
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Looking for current loads on LH447 (DEN-FRA) for 6/22

Thanks
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Old Jun 5, 2019, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by tods27
Looking for current loads on LH447 (DEN-FRA) for 6/22
LH 447 DEN 06/22/19 5:30 PM FRA 06/23/19 11:05 AM 744 Daily
J9 C9 D9 Z2 P0 G9 E6 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V8 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0
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Old Jun 6, 2019, 8:18 pm
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I'm on a G fare waitlisted for upgrade using a GPU on LH 458 (MUC-SFO), July 8th.

I recognize it's more than a month away, but curious how the loads look now.

Thanks.

Last edited by malgudi; Jun 6, 2019 at 11:27 pm
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Old Jun 6, 2019, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by malgudi
I'm on a G fare waitlisted for upgrade using a GPU on LH 458 (July 8th).

I recognize it's more than a month away, but curious how the loads look now.

Thanks.
As noted several times upthread, you should include the destination and departure points in your requests.
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Old Jun 7, 2019, 2:48 am
  #1942  
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Originally Posted by malgudi
I'm on a G fare waitlisted for upgrade using a GPU on LH 458 (MUC-SFO), July 8th.

I recognize it's more than a month away, but curious how the loads look now.

Thanks.
Doesn't look good... They are using an A346 with a smaller C config (only 44 seats) and not selling any seats in C ex MUC anymore. If you pretend to buy from London they have 5 seats available, probably selling the empty F seats. On the other hand PE is also oversold.
Code:
an8jullonsfo/alh458,lh
AN8JULLONSFO/ALH458,LH
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** SFO SAN FRANCISCO.USCA        31 MO 08JUL 0000
 1   LH2473  J5 C5 DL ZL Y9 B9 M9 /LHR 2 MUC 2  1055    1340  E0/320
             UL HL QL VL WL SL
     LH 458  F4 AL J5 C5 DL ZL GL /MUC 2 SFO I  1610    1905  E0/346      16:10
             EL NL Y9 B9 M9 UL HL QL VL WL SL

>an8julsfo/alh458
AN8JULSFO/ALH458
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** SFO SAN FRANCISCO.USCA        31 MO 08JUL 0000
 1   LH 458  F4 AL JL CL DL ZL GL /MUC 2 SFO I  1610    1905  E0/346      11:55
             EL NL Y9 B9 M9 U9 H4 QL VL WL SL

>sm/1/f/v
SM LH 0458/F/08JULMUCSFO/V
SM LH  0458  F 08JUL MUCSFO        346
        A     D  G     K 
F  1    +     +  +     .   1  F
   2    +     C  .     +   2   
        A     D  G     K 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT 
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET 
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE

>sm/1/c/v
SITZPLAN FUER ANGEF. ZONE N. VERF., SITZ KANN ANGEFORDERT WERDEN

>sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0458/E/08JULMUCSFO/V
SM LH  0458  E 08JUL MUCSFO        346
         A  C     D  E  G     H  K 
E 22 <   +  +     C  I  +     +  +   > 22 E
  23 <   +  +     +  +  +     +  +   > 23  
  24 <   +  +     +  +  +     +  +   > 24  
  25 <E  +  +                 +  +  E> 25  
  26 <   +  +     +  .  +     +  +   > 26  
         A  C     D  E  G     H  K 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT 
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET 
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE


DOLH458/8JUL                                                                    
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              LH 458   31 MO 08JUL19                    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                  
MUC          1610  MO FAJCDZPGENY/M       346        11:55                      
                      BMUHQVWSTLK/M                                             
SFO 1905  MO                                               11:55                
                                                                                
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.MUC SFO   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 2                                               
 2.MUC SFO   - ARRIVES TERMINAL I                                               
 3.MUC SFO   - SECURED FLIGHT                                                   
 4.MUC SFO   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                    
 5.MUC SFO   - SEC FLT PSGR DATA REQUIRED 72 HBD SSR DOCS                       
 6.MUC SFO   - US LAW SEE GGAIRLH PNR ACCESS OR NEWS KEYWORDS                   
 7.MUC SFO   - ESTA REQUIRED FOR VISA WAIVER NATIONALS                          
 8.MUC SFO   - FULLY FLAT BED IN BUSINESS CLASS. SEE WWW.LH.COM                 
 9.MUC SFO   - F8C44E32M213                                                     
10.MUC SFO   -  CO2/PAX* 510.18 KG ECO, 1,020.36 KG PRE                         
 (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR                                    
                                                                                
CONFIGURATION-                                                                  
               346  F   8   C  44   E  32   M 213
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Old Jun 7, 2019, 7:20 am
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Thanks! Looks I picked a good day to travel (in PE)
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Old Jun 8, 2019, 9:19 am
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Could someone help me check loads for Jul 7?
BUD - FRA (LH 1339)
FRA - JFK (LH 404)

Trying to gauge the likelihood of J award space opening up.

Thanks!
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Old Jun 8, 2019, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Kylash
Could someone help me check loads for Jul 7?
BUD - FRA (LH 1339)
FRA - JFK (LH 404)

Trying to gauge the likelihood of J award space opening up.

Thanks!
LH 1339 BUD 07/07/19 2:30 PM FRA 07/07/19 4:10 PM 321 Daily
J9 C0 D0 Z0 P0 Y1 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0

LH 404 FRA 07/07/19 5:10 PM JFK 07/07/19 7:55 PM 74H Daily
F2 A0 J9 C9 D0 Z0 P0 G4 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0

As far as BUD-FRA is concerned LH1337 looks more promising and gives you a more comfortable transfer in FRA.

LH 1337 BUD 07/07/19 11:25 AM FRA 07/07/19 1:05 PM 32N Daily
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H8 Q1 V6 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
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Old Jun 9, 2019, 11:56 am
  #1946  
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LH491 on 6/11

Can someone please check the loads for LH491 (SEA-FRA) on Tuesday (6/11)?

Thank you!
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Old Jun 9, 2019, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by DTS
Can someone please check the loads for LH491 (SEA-FRA) on Tuesday (6/11)?
LH 491 SEA 06/11/19 1:50 PM FRA 06/12/19 8:35 AM 744 Daily
J7 C7 D7 Z0 P0 G7 E6 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U0 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
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Old Jun 9, 2019, 2:08 pm
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Old Jun 11, 2019, 9:36 am
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Please forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere in the thread but I couldn't figure it out. Can we use an instrument to go from economy to business class on LH or is it only available as an upgrade from premium economy to business? Thanks.
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Old Jun 11, 2019, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Nesta
Please forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere in the thread but I couldn't figure it out. Can we use an instrument to go from economy to business class on LH or is it only available as an upgrade from premium economy to business? Thanks.
Yes, you can.
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