Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]
May 19, 2019, 2:08 pm
#1921
Join Date: Feb 1999
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Weird question is, on all lh500 (fra-gig) I see N9 on most of these, but, on lh.com I do not see (cheap) prem. eco (N) (N9) available at all, only on the 11th... why is that, and how can I book these N on the 13th for example, if lh.com is not showing...? any ideas/suggestion?
Thanks again,
redrobin
May 20, 2019, 11:23 am
#1923
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: ZRH/GIG
Posts: 586
thanks.. i did browse anonymous with another browser but, no luck. Also, my "safe bet" of the outbound in N, is also now not available.. can't believe its N0 E0 ... anyhow, thanks. should have booked when I first decided...
May 28, 2019, 9:27 pm
#1926
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Flying SFO-MUC (LH 459) on Saturday (1 June) and have a request in to upgrade to business. What are the odds it might clear?
May 29, 2019, 1:04 am
#1927
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May 29, 2019, 3:28 am
#1928
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Code:
AN1JUNSFOMUC/ALH459
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** MUC MUNICH.DE 3 SA 01JUN 0000
1 LH 459 F2 A2 J9 C9 D9 ZL G9 /SFO I MUC 2 2055 1715+1E0/346 11:20
E9 NL Y9 B9 M9 UL H9 Q9 V8 W8 S5
>sm/1/f/v
SM LH 0459/F/01JUNSFOMUC/V
SM LH 0459 F 01JUN SFOMUC 346
A D G K
F 1 + + + + 1 F
2 + C . + 2
A D G K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/c/v
SM LH 0459/C/01JUNSFOMUC/V
SM LH 0459 C 01JUN SFOMUC 346
A C D G H K
C 3 + + + + + + 3 C
4 + + + + + + 4
5 + + + + + + 5
6 + + + + + + 6
7 + + H + + + 7
10 < . + > 10
11 <B C I + . I C B> 11
12 < + . + . . + > 12
A C D G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/g/v
SM LH 0459/G/01JUNSFOMUC/V
SM LH 0459 G 01JUN SFOMUC 346
A C D E G H K
E 22 < + + + + + + + > 22 E
23 < + + + + + . U > 23
24 < + + + . + + + > 24
25 <E + + + + E> 25
26 < + + + . + + . > 26
A C D E G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
May 29, 2019, 5:40 am
#1929
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PE and Business look oversold:
Code:
AN1JUNSFOMUC/ALH459 ** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** MUC MUNICH.DE 3 SA 01JUN 0000 1 LH 459 F2 A2 J9 C9 D9 ZL G9 /SFO I MUC 2 2055 1715+1E0/346 11:20 E9 NL Y9 B9 M9 UL H9 Q9 V8 W8 S5 >sm/1/f/v SM LH 0459/F/01JUNSFOMUC/V SM LH 0459 F 01JUN SFOMUC 346 A D G K F 1 + + + + 1 F 2 + C . + 2 A D G K . AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT + OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET / RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR () SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR Y CHARGEABLE >sm/1/c/v SM LH 0459/C/01JUNSFOMUC/V SM LH 0459 C 01JUN SFOMUC 346 A C D G H K C 3 + + + + + + 3 C 4 + + + + + + 4 5 + + + + + + 5 6 + + + + + + 6 7 + + H + + + 7 10 < . + > 10 11 <B C I + . I C B> 11 12 < + . + . . + > 12 A C D G H K . AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT + OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET / RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR () SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR Y CHARGEABLE >sm/1/g/v SM LH 0459/G/01JUNSFOMUC/V SM LH 0459 G 01JUN SFOMUC 346 A C D E G H K E 22 < + + + + + + + > 22 E 23 < + + + + + . U > 23 24 < + + + . + + + > 24 25 <E + + + + E> 25 26 < + + + . + + . > 26 A C D E G H K . AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT + OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET / RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR () SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Oliver -- I'm not used to looking at LH inventory. Can you explain why you believe PE and business are oversold when the flight is J9C9D9 and G9E9 (and the seat maps appear to show open seats in those cabins)? Is it because it is showing Z0N0?
May 29, 2019, 5:57 am
#1930
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The seat maps show 5 seats not taken in PE, only 10 seats not taken in C, and F shows 2 seats open. Many don't do seat reservations, so my guesstimate is that LH is overselling a bit. Its a guess based on gut feeling.That said as 1K with a GPU you are ahead in line for the upgrade to business compared to PE customers that have been oversold.
May 29, 2019, 6:00 am
#1931
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The seat maps show 5 seats not taken in PE, only 10 seats not taken in C, and F shows 2 seats open. Many don't do seat reservations, so my guesstimate is that LH is overselling a bit. Its a guess based on gut feeling.That said as 1K with a GPU you are ahead in line for the upgrade to business compared to PE customers that have been oversold.
May 29, 2019, 2:12 pm
#1932
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Upgrade cleared sometime today! At the moment, both the business and economy segments are still showing in my reservation as "confirmed", but I don't think that's a problem? Thanks again for all of the help!
Jun 3, 2019, 1:03 pm
#1934
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Jun 3, 2019, 4:46 pm
#1935
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Might have to change LX 155 BOM-ZRH (Booked D) from June 5th to June 6th (will have to pay into J). Could some check the loads for this? Is it oversold, if so, I'd only be behind HONs for an opup? Thank you!