Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]
Jan 29, 2017, 12:11 am
#1276
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: United 1K, Lufthansa Senator *,Marriott platinum
Posts: 98
What would the more experienced say are the chances of my Houston to Frankfurt waitlist clearing from PE to business ?
Jan 31, 2017, 2:06 am
#1277
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Programs: *A "Top 1000 2015", FB Lifetime Plat.; BA Silver; Ma; Hilton Diamond.rriott Gold
Posts: 497
I'm looking to fly on LH 458 MUC-SFO on Feb 4 2017 in PE, hoping to apply a UA GPU. To me it doesn't look very hopeful at all (UA reports J4 at best, and on the LH site if I try to book more thank one biz seat it fails). Could some one check loads for me/comment on my chances. Thanks!
Jan 31, 2017, 8:59 am
#1278
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,130
I'm looking to fly on LH 458 MUC-SFO on Feb 4 2017 in PE, hoping to apply a UA GPU. To me it doesn't look very hopeful at all (UA reports J4 at best, and on the LH site if I try to book more thank one biz seat it fails). Could some one check loads for me/comment on my chances. Thanks!
Code:
>ad04febmucsfo/alh458
AD04FEBMUCSFO/ALH458
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** SFO SAN FRANCISCO.USCA 4 SA 04FEB 0000
** MC MARRIOTT SFO ARPT WATERFRONT*MIN FR DOWNTN*FR 149 US
** MODERN RMS*24-HR SHTL*TO BOOK >HAMCSFOBGMDDMMM-1
1 LH 458 F1 A1 JL CL DL ZL G1 /MUC 2 SFO I 1550 1905 E0/346 12:15
EL NL Y5 B4 M2 U1 HL QL VL WL SL
>sm/1/c/v
SM LH 0458/C/04FEBMUCSFO/V
SM LH 0458 C 04FEB MUCSFO 346
A C D G H K
C 3 + + + + + + 3 C
4 + + + + + + 4
5 . + + + + + 5
6 + + + + + + 6
7 + + + H U + 7
10 < + + > 10
11 <B C + + + + C B> 11
12 < + + + + + + > 12
14 < + + + + + + > 14
15 < . . + + + + > 15
A C D G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0458/E/04FEBMUCSFO/V
SM LH 0458 E 04FEB MUCSFO 346
A C D E G H K
E 25 <E + + + + E> 25 E
26 < C + + > 26
27 < + + + . H + + > 27
28 < + + + . + + + > 28
29 < + + + . + + + > 29
A C D E G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/y/v
SM LH 0458/Y/04FEBMUCSFO/V
SM LH 0458 Y 04FEB MUCSFO 346
A C D E F G H K
M 31 <B + + + + + + + B> 31 M
32 < / / + / / / / / > 32
33 < / / / / / / / / > 33
34 / / / / / H / / 34
35 + + + . . H + + 35
36 + + + . . H + + 36
37 . + + . . . + + 37
38 + + + . + . 38
39 + + + . + . 39
40 . + . . + . 40
43 B C / / C B 43
44 C / / / / / / C 44
45 . + + . . + + + 45
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0458/Y/04FEBMUCSFO/V
46 + . + + + . + + 46
47 + + . . . . + + 47
48 + + + . . + + + 48
49 / / / / / / / / 49
50 / / / / / / / / 50
51 / / / / / / / / 51
52 / / / / / / / / 52
53 . + + + + + + . 53
54 + + + . + + + 54
55 + . + . + . . 55
56 . . U U U U U 56
57 + + U U U U U 57
58 + + + . 58
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>
Jan 31, 2017, 12:56 pm
#1280
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Programs: *A "Top 1000 2015", FB Lifetime Plat.; BA Silver; Ma; Hilton Diamond.rriott Gold
Posts: 497
thanks very much for this. I think I'll not risk it but trek down to London rather than connecting from MAN, and take the indirect UA metal (UA17/UA418) which looks quite hopeful for GPU. Maintenance on rail network will add 90 mins to train journey though so it will mean an early start :-(.
C is definitely oversold, E slightly oversold. PE->C doesn't look good. Y->PE very low chance.
Code:
>ad04febmucsfo/alh458
AD04FEBMUCSFO/ALH458
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** SFO SAN FRANCISCO.USCA 4 SA 04FEB 0000
** MC MARRIOTT SFO ARPT WATERFRONT*MIN FR DOWNTN*FR 149 US
** MODERN RMS*24-HR SHTL*TO BOOK >HAMCSFOBGMDDMMM-1
1 LH 458 F1 A1 JL CL DL ZL G1 /MUC 2 SFO I 1550 1905 E0/346 12:15
EL NL Y5 B4 M2 U1 HL QL VL WL SL
>sm/1/c/v
SM LH 0458/C/04FEBMUCSFO/V
SM LH 0458 C 04FEB MUCSFO 346
A C D G H K
C 3 + + + + + + 3 C
4 + + + + + + 4
5 . + + + + + 5
6 + + + + + + 6
7 + + + H U + 7
10 < + + > 10
11 <B C + + + + C B> 11
12 < + + + + + + > 12
14 < + + + + + + > 14
15 < . . + + + + > 15
A C D G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0458/E/04FEBMUCSFO/V
SM LH 0458 E 04FEB MUCSFO 346
A C D E G H K
E 25 <E + + + + E> 25 E
26 < C + + > 26
27 < + + + . H + + > 27
28 < + + + . + + + > 28
29 < + + + . + + + > 29
A C D E G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/y/v
SM LH 0458/Y/04FEBMUCSFO/V
SM LH 0458 Y 04FEB MUCSFO 346
A C D E F G H K
M 31 <B + + + + + + + B> 31 M
32 < / / + / / / / / > 32
33 < / / / / / / / / > 33
34 / / / / / H / / 34
35 + + + . . H + + 35
36 + + + . . H + + 36
37 . + + . . . + + 37
38 + + + . + . 38
39 + + + . + . 39
40 . + . . + . 40
43 B C / / C B 43
44 C / / / / / / C 44
45 . + + . . + + + 45
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0458/Y/04FEBMUCSFO/V
46 + . + + + . + + 46
47 + + . . . . + + 47
48 + + + . . + + + 48
49 / / / / / / / / 49
50 / / / / / / / / 50
51 / / / / / / / / 51
52 / / / / / / / / 52
53 . + + + + + + . 53
54 + + + . + + + 54
55 + . + . + . . 55
56 . . U U U U U 56
57 + + U U U U U 57
58 + + + . 58
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>
Greatly appreciated!
Feb 4, 2017, 3:05 am
#1283
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: LCY for convenience, LHR for the lounges
Programs: BA Rust, A3 Gold, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 59
Hi. Hoping to burn UA miles on LH500 FRA-GIG on 23/2/17.
Currently booked revenue in C but if there's any chance of F opening up I'll cancel.
Could someone check the loads for that day and maybe the day after please?
Many thanks.
EM
Currently booked revenue in C but if there's any chance of F opening up I'll cancel.
Could someone check the loads for that day and maybe the day after please?
Many thanks.
EM
Feb 4, 2017, 10:20 am
#1285
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA, France
Programs: LH HON*****, AF/KL Gold; HHilton Diamond; Marriott Gold; IHG Platinium; Avis PresClub
Posts: 931
F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 G9 E9 N7 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q7 V1 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
Feb 4, 2017, 10:22 am
#1286
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA, France
Programs: LH HON*****, AF/KL Gold; HHilton Diamond; Marriott Gold; IHG Platinium; Avis PresClub
Posts: 931
Feb 6, 2017, 1:52 am
#1288
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,158
Could someone please help me check the biz loads on LH778 (FRA-SIN) for 1 MAR 2017?
Are we looking at a full business class cabin or can I risk a window seat with the hope of not getting locked-in by another pax?
Are we looking at a full business class cabin or can I risk a window seat with the hope of not getting locked-in by another pax?
Feb 6, 2017, 4:23 am
#1290
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Location: Denmark
Programs: TK Elite
Posts: 11,779
It is too far out to tell anything now, but in general LH to/from SIN is always full in C. I would def. not count on an empty seat next to you; unlikely IMO.
