M&M Flight Award Booking - FAQ and Help Thread
#511
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yes - this would indeed be interesting.
This reminds me of that I recently booked an award flight and the waiting screen informed about the fact that it is NOT possible - only - for Polish residents to pay tax+surcharges with those 15.000 miles.
So maybe in Poland there are indeed other "rules"...
This reminds me of that I recently booked an award flight and the waiting screen informed about the fact that it is NOT possible - only - for Polish residents to pay tax+surcharges with those 15.000 miles.
So maybe in Poland there are indeed other "rules"...
#512
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Did LO issue the award ticket on LO ticket stock or Lufthansa ticket stock (220-xxxx)? If its on LO ticket stock it may be that LO has a different arrangement with AC for surcharges.
Placing awards on hold: its only allowed on integrated M&M partner airlines, not on others. The other carrier may, at any time, kick out unticketed reservations. So if M&M PL did it and AC didn't cancel the segments, you may have been lucky.
Placing awards on hold: its only allowed on integrated M&M partner airlines, not on others. The other carrier may, at any time, kick out unticketed reservations. So if M&M PL did it and AC didn't cancel the segments, you may have been lucky.
#513
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 38
Did LO issue the award ticket on LO ticket stock or Lufthansa ticket stock (220-xxxx)? If its on LO ticket stock it may be that LO has a different arrangement with AC for surcharges.
Placing awards on hold: its only allowed on integrated M&M partner airlines, not on others. The other carrier may, at any time, kick out unticketed reservations. So if M&M PL did it and AC didn't cancel the segments, you may have been lucky.
Placing awards on hold: its only allowed on integrated M&M partner airlines, not on others. The other carrier may, at any time, kick out unticketed reservations. So if M&M PL did it and AC didn't cancel the segments, you may have been lucky.
As I said the fact about very cheap AC taxes/fees seem to be known to Polish agents. I still do not understand how that's possible.
For placing booking on hold:
1. all Polish M&M agents were saying booking will be valid for next 3 days.
2. for return ticket: I booked it with *A Aegean/A3 - Greek agent told me she place booking on hold for 3 hours, and did so (carriers: AC, LO).
Regards,
n3l15
#514
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 175
Try and use the ticket, even if it means changing the date. You'll lose the miles otherwise. Remember, the ticket is valid for 1 year from the date of issue, not the date of travel. So if you made the ticket on 28th February, it will be valid until 27th February next year. I think there are wriggles for getting around that restriction, but I'm not sure what they are.
doesn't anybody know?
#515
Join Date: Dec 2004
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doesn't anybody know?
#516
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M&M award for TG flights
2 questions:
Currently, I have a M&M award ticket for HKT-BKK-CPH on TG in C class (no YQ ^) Due to change of plans I'm considering to rebook the flights to BKK-CPH only, i.e. same day, same flight but just skipping the first leg. The issue is that there is no availability now for BKK-CPH and if M&M needs to cancel all flights before rebooking, I fear that availability will not re-appear. Would M&M be able to rebook by simply removing the first flight/leg without touching the second flight? - or would rebooking require cancel and rebooking of the all flights? I know that rebooking fee of EUR 50 will be payable.
Secondly, is a stopover allowed on a o/w M&M award (Thailand - CPH)?. I mean, HKT-BKK (stopover) -CPH? (stopover = > 24hours of course).
Currently, I have a M&M award ticket for HKT-BKK-CPH on TG in C class (no YQ ^) Due to change of plans I'm considering to rebook the flights to BKK-CPH only, i.e. same day, same flight but just skipping the first leg. The issue is that there is no availability now for BKK-CPH and if M&M needs to cancel all flights before rebooking, I fear that availability will not re-appear. Would M&M be able to rebook by simply removing the first flight/leg without touching the second flight? - or would rebooking require cancel and rebooking of the all flights? I know that rebooking fee of EUR 50 will be payable.
Secondly, is a stopover allowed on a o/w M&M award (Thailand - CPH)?. I mean, HKT-BKK (stopover) -CPH? (stopover = > 24hours of course).
#519
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Is there a Miles-And-More award booking thread? I didn't see one, so I'll ask here:
I want to fly OS from INN>FRA economy, then FRA>ORD in F. The LH award chart says 170,000 miles RT, Europe to North America, so one way should be 85,000 (including voluntary downgrade to economy for OS leg). I picked a date FRA>ORD has F available for 85,000 mile, but changing the search for that date to INN>FRA, no flights show up. I suspect this is because the M+M website can't display mixed awards like United or others do. If I change it to all Economy, it shows both legs in Economy for the expected 30,000 miles one way.
So the question is, do I have to call to book the economy/first itinerary I want for 85,000 miles one way per person?
I want to fly OS from INN>FRA economy, then FRA>ORD in F. The LH award chart says 170,000 miles RT, Europe to North America, so one way should be 85,000 (including voluntary downgrade to economy for OS leg). I picked a date FRA>ORD has F available for 85,000 mile, but changing the search for that date to INN>FRA, no flights show up. I suspect this is because the M+M website can't display mixed awards like United or others do. If I change it to all Economy, it shows both legs in Economy for the expected 30,000 miles one way.
So the question is, do I have to call to book the economy/first itinerary I want for 85,000 miles one way per person?
#522
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Trying to change a mixed booking class. Book in Business from HEL to LAX, and FRA-LAX opened up in first and I wanted to book.
Called, and they couldn't' find the availability I was seeing on the M&M website. Anyone ever run into this issue? They said they have different inventory in the call center vs what is show online... which seems insane.
Called, and they couldn't' find the availability I was seeing on the M&M website. Anyone ever run into this issue? They said they have different inventory in the call center vs what is show online... which seems insane.
#523
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Trying to change a mixed booking class. Book in Business from HEL to LAX, and FRA-LAX opened up in first and I wanted to book. Called, and they couldn't find the availability I was seeing on the M&M website. Anyone ever run into this issue? They said they have different inventory in the call center vs what is show online... which seems insane.
When you checked online, did you check just FRA-LAX or HEL-FRA-LAX?
In any event, I would definitely HUCA and try again.
#525
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 87
Trying to change a mixed booking class. Book in Business from HEL to LAX, and FRA-LAX opened up in first and I wanted to book.
Called, and they couldn't' find the availability I was seeing on the M&M website. Anyone ever run into this issue? They said they have different inventory in the call center vs what is show online... which seems insane.
Called, and they couldn't' find the availability I was seeing on the M&M website. Anyone ever run into this issue? They said they have different inventory in the call center vs what is show online... which seems insane.
I made an award booking back in Dec FRA-VIE-MIA in J on OS hoping to change to LH F when/if it became available for the end of August. I had been checking the M & M website to see if it became available and also called in about every 2 weeks since I assumed availability might be different from the website to calling direct.
The flight had been showing an empty F cabin on Expert Flyer. 2 weeks ago, the M & M website showed availability in F. I called the next morning, but the agent did not see any award seats in F. The website still showed it. I cancelled my booking on OS and paid the 50 Euro cancellation fee. While the agent showed my miles balance being credited immediately, I couldn't see it on my end. I switched browsers, I switched computers, at one time I had the increased mileage balance showing under the "My account tab" but not under the name tab. I tried to book the F flight and got an error message " not enough miles to book". I was sweating bricks and called back. Again, the agent showed no seats available in F on my flight, but saw my full mileage balance, while I clearly saw the flight being available but the miles weren't there.
I gave up and waited 2 hours. Logged back in, the credited miles were there and I was able to book FRA - MIA in F without a problem. Checked Expert Flyer's seat map and the seat I chose showed occupied.
Miles & More website definitely needs some bug fixing.....but up to today I have not received a refund for the taxes and fees for my cancelled OS flight.