New M&M award chart from 03JAN2011 in C & F [rumour confirmed]
Nov 30, 2010, 5:55 pm
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Nov 30, 2010, 11:53 pm
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Looks like crappy changes to be honest, luckily I hadn't booked any 2011 travel for deposit in my LH account so I'll stick with UA and not bother to keep my Senator status, with the limited 25% bonus at least the lower levels keep the LH programme appealing, this is just no longer worth it.
Dec 1, 2010, 12:36 am
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That seems to be an answer for split awards (i.e. outbound C return F)
It should costs us the same number of miles... but how about taxes ?
2X OW taxes equal to 1RT taxes ?
Also rebooking will cost us 2x rebook fee if we go that way.
I do not know the answers above but my experience tells me this is another disadvantage.
It should costs us the same number of miles... but how about taxes ?
2X OW taxes equal to 1RT taxes ?
Also rebooking will cost us 2x rebook fee if we go that way.
I do not know the answers above but my experience tells me this is another disadvantage.
Dec 1, 2010, 1:18 am
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Let's hope our friends at Lufthansa IT do update the booking engine the way oneway awards can be booked online...
Dec 1, 2010, 1:28 am
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What were the odds that they'd post the WRONG award chart ?
You couldn't make this stuff up !
This is also funny:
"These changes will apply to all flight awards booked as of 3 January 2011. For award flights booked at an earlier date which do not take place until after 3 January 2011, the previous terms and conditions will apply."
You couldn't make this stuff up !
This is also funny:
"These changes will apply to all flight awards booked as of 3 January 2011. For award flights booked at an earlier date which do not take place until after 3 January 2011, the previous terms and conditions will apply."
Dec 1, 2010, 1:45 am
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Will be interesting to see what sort of marketing lingo they'll use to sell the "enchantments". Probably a couple big paragraphs on the "new great features" like one way and stopover and a small print "We also adjusted the mileage price on some of the mileage awards to better represent the outstanding quality of our premium offerings"...
On 3 January 2011 some changes will be made to Miles & More flight awards - and some will be better.
the mileage surcharge for one-way flight awards will be discontinued
the mileage surcharge for flight awards with a same-day return flight will be discontinued
Only First and Business Class intercontinental flight awards in First and Business Class will require increased mileage levels from 2011
Dec 1, 2010, 1:46 am
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Dec 1, 2010, 1:49 am
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Well- I am not sure why you would be confused- there is a person at LH who has a job related to following social media- this board is part of social media- it would surely not hurt to write a message and at least point out the positives of this change.
For me- this is very poor customer service- not only the FT abscence but LH in general changing with very little notice (1 month- come on). It is fine- it is a frequent flyer program- and I did just book another Air Berlin flight- 300 EUR cheaper than LH for a one hour flight
For me- this is very poor customer service- not only the FT abscence but LH in general changing with very little notice (1 month- come on). It is fine- it is a frequent flyer program- and I did just book another Air Berlin flight- 300 EUR cheaper than LH for a one hour flight
Dec 1, 2010, 1:51 am
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Dec 1, 2010, 1:57 am
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Thanks oliver for the update.
Nice thing is that VCE just went 2X daily with Emirates and added First MXP just had a very nice visit from A380 and also upgauged service.
Jet starts in 2011 nonstops from MXP.
With a little bit of advanced planning, MXP/SIN/SYD roundtrip all in on SQ is ~3500 EUR in C.
CX can be under 2K EUR roundtrip in C from MXP or FCO to HKG.
The flysmart traffic with fares under 400 EUR roundtrip to Beijing I am sure are extremely profitable for LH- however I here more and more colleagues commenting on their satisfaction with BA,EK,CX,SQ- of course, this could be nothing but their vicious rumours- however more than a few are not renewing HON so...
LH may very well be right about FFP incentives- however if there is limited redeeming anyway with I/O classes- why increase it? And one month notice may be certainly OK with their terms and conditions- but it is not very nice given some people have saved up a long time for special ticket redemptions etc- and as you know in Europe-and particularly Italy- it is not like there are a huge number of ways to earn miles other than actually flying (OK there is the Unicredit Card- and other than that?). Also- it does not seem that things can seem that well thought out- offer 2 extra evouchers for HON retention at 800 K, and at the same time tell them they need >20% more miles for redemption? Where is the retention thinking there? Mah...
Nice thing is that VCE just went 2X daily with Emirates and added First
MXP just had a very nice visit from A380 and also upgauged service.Jet starts in 2011 nonstops from MXP.
With a little bit of advanced planning, MXP/SIN/SYD roundtrip all in on SQ is ~3500 EUR in C.
CX can be under 2K EUR roundtrip in C from MXP or FCO to HKG.
The flysmart traffic with fares under 400 EUR roundtrip to Beijing I am sure are extremely profitable for LH- however I here more and more colleagues commenting on their satisfaction with BA,EK,CX,SQ- of course, this could be nothing but their vicious rumours- however more than a few are not renewing HON so...
LH may very well be right about FFP incentives- however if there is limited redeeming anyway with I/O classes- why increase it? And one month notice may be certainly OK with their terms and conditions- but it is not very nice given some people have saved up a long time for special ticket redemptions etc- and as you know in Europe-and particularly Italy- it is not like there are a huge number of ways to earn miles other than actually flying (OK there is the Unicredit Card- and other than that?). Also- it does not seem that things can seem that well thought out- offer 2 extra evouchers for HON retention at 800 K, and at the same time tell them they need >20% more miles for redemption? Where is the retention thinking there? Mah...
With the new enhancements to M/M, Skywards is starting to look as a feasible alternative to M/M...
SQ also is pushing C and F to Far East and OZ.