Burning up my M&M points
#1
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Burning up my M&M points
My SEN is running out in Feb 2011 and I've got about 270k with M&M.
Given that my flying has dropped considerably in the last two years, I doubt I'll be able to renew SEN or get any meaningful amount of points in the next year or so.
As such, I'm thinking of burning the points.
Now, earlier this year I spent my OW points for a round-trip Australia to Europe in first class to propose to my then girlfriend (now fiancee ... )
With 270k, I can use that to go Asia/Europe in FC providing I go with M&M carriers as I can use the 50% SEN discount.
Given that I'm just looking to burn points that means my schedule is flexible and I'm thinking of trying out NRT-FRA in LH's 380. However, I've also read about LX's F and I'm wondering if it might be worth it to go NRT-ZRH (or some other Asian destination but most likely NRT as my fiancee has been wanting to go to Japan) and check out LX F and then back FRA-NRT on LH 380?
Or should I just go LH 380 F both ways?
Given that my flying has dropped considerably in the last two years, I doubt I'll be able to renew SEN or get any meaningful amount of points in the next year or so.
As such, I'm thinking of burning the points.
Now, earlier this year I spent my OW points for a round-trip Australia to Europe in first class to propose to my then girlfriend (now fiancee ... )
With 270k, I can use that to go Asia/Europe in FC providing I go with M&M carriers as I can use the 50% SEN discount.
Given that I'm just looking to burn points that means my schedule is flexible and I'm thinking of trying out NRT-FRA in LH's 380. However, I've also read about LX's F and I'm wondering if it might be worth it to go NRT-ZRH (or some other Asian destination but most likely NRT as my fiancee has been wanting to go to Japan) and check out LX F and then back FRA-NRT on LH 380?
Or should I just go LH 380 F both ways?
#2
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Always good to try out different things so I would mix and match.
However, how will you get to Japan on M&M from Sydney? Only CA and OZ do this without making it a 3 region award and there is no F. So it would be 2 C awards which are 180,000 for the two of you leaving not enough miles for the NRT-FRA flights.
However, how will you get to Japan on M&M from Sydney? Only CA and OZ do this without making it a 3 region award and there is no F. So it would be 2 C awards which are 180,000 for the two of you leaving not enough miles for the NRT-FRA flights.
#3
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Sydney/Asia will have to be out of my own pocket unfortunately.
I was more curious if the LX F product (hard and soft) are worth checking out. I know LH F in FRA is supposed to be amazing and I wasn't sure if perhaps LH F out of NRT might be just as amazing or if it's no different than LX F.
I was more curious if the LX F product (hard and soft) are worth checking out. I know LH F in FRA is supposed to be amazing and I wasn't sure if perhaps LH F out of NRT might be just as amazing or if it's no different than LX F.
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Sydney/Asia will have to be out of my own pocket unfortunately.
I was more curious if the LX F product (hard and soft) are worth checking out. I know LH F in FRA is supposed to be amazing and I wasn't sure if perhaps LH F out of NRT might be just as amazing or if it's no different than LX F.
I was more curious if the LX F product (hard and soft) are worth checking out. I know LH F in FRA is supposed to be amazing and I wasn't sure if perhaps LH F out of NRT might be just as amazing or if it's no different than LX F.
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I can't seem to find any such fares? If not, wouldn't I just end up in the C lounge as my outward flight is C?
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Theres no F (only C) on intra-European flights, but when arriving on LX in F and connecting to a flight in a lower class, you are entitled to use the FCL.
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Another consideration: NRT-Europe is a daylight flight, Europe-NRT although departing early afternoon is effectively an overnight flight.
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I don't have a problem with "older" F product so long as I can tell it's an F product, eg., we took CX F HKG-CDG with their "new" F but on the way back we were on BA F LHR-SIN which was definitely a bit worn out but ... you know, it's still a pretty nice seat (though it was the service that really made it my best flight ever, topping even my favorite SQ flights).
So yes, older F I don't mind though I suppose the attraction is all the new gee-whiz F products as old F is just like new C these days (well, depending where you look).
Another consideration: NRT-Europe is a daylight flight, Europe-NRT although departing early afternoon is effectively an overnight flight.
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If you decide to have both a full meal in the FCT and a full 5 course meal in the air and have a drink with each course and another few pre/post-departure drinks (it wouldnt be polite to refuse a drink after all ), youll very much appreciate having a bed to relax!
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If you don't mind the "old" LH F you can always fly FRA-MUC-NRT and still maximise your FRA FCT experience.
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If you are flexible I can't see why you can't get an F award on the A380 provided you get an agent who knows how to waitlist for an F award. In addition I'm not sure if SEN/HON waitlisting for F awards on the A380 applies to SEN/HON themselves only or to travelling companions as well.
If you don't mind the "old" LH F you can always fly FRA-MUC-NRT and still maximise your FRA FCT experience.
If you don't mind the "old" LH F you can always fly FRA-MUC-NRT and still maximise your FRA FCT experience.
But hmm, I didn't realize it's a waitlist. I should call LH asap!