Mar 6, 2013, 3:54 am
List of M&M promotions
Sep 1, 2018, 8:41 pm
#3018
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,619
I think LH is just confirming that the miles are almost utterly worthless, except maybe for long haul destination in premium cabins. It doesn’t matter how many they give out, most people won’t spend them. The number of people I know who have just let their miles lapse is amazing. The general perception is that they’re just not worth the hassle of chasing up and looking after, and I find myself agreeing with them. Good for us maybe, but I looked at a possible redemption out of Moscow, not really a one way, but a sort of open jaw to GVA, going ‘back’ to DUS. Taxes were EUR150, and a paid ticket EUR250. So naturally I took a paid ticket. Time was that unusual itineraries in and out of Eastern Europe could provide real value with the miles, but no longer.
Sep 1, 2018, 10:13 pm
#3019
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BRU-ZRH
Programs: LX HON, BA Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium Elite
Posts: 764
On the contrary, the miles are worth a lot now - at least the ones you still have as well as the ones you are getting for flights booked prior to 12.03.2018.
For most people flying on LH Group the award miles to be received for their tickets are drastically reduced, and they will certainly be enticed by this promotion. My schedule is already completely full, otherwise I'd certainly feel inclined to book a few trips.
Regarding your example of the 'bad' value of a redemption compared to a paid ticket, it fully depends on the situation. I agree that in your case it does not make a lot of sense, but if it were very short notice prices can go through the roof and then the miles can come in handy. As with all mileage programs, one has to do a bit of studying before actually using them. I'm a BA Gold by accident and had to read through the whole thread in order to somehow feel at ease by what Avios I was spending (christ, what a puzzle!). Same goes for M&M.
For most people flying on LH Group the award miles to be received for their tickets are drastically reduced, and they will certainly be enticed by this promotion. My schedule is already completely full, otherwise I'd certainly feel inclined to book a few trips.
Regarding your example of the 'bad' value of a redemption compared to a paid ticket, it fully depends on the situation. I agree that in your case it does not make a lot of sense, but if it were very short notice prices can go through the roof and then the miles can come in handy. As with all mileage programs, one has to do a bit of studying before actually using them. I'm a BA Gold by accident and had to read through the whole thread in order to somehow feel at ease by what Avios I was spending (christ, what a puzzle!). Same goes for M&M.
Sep 2, 2018, 5:54 am
#3020
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: WAW
Programs: A3(*G), Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,534
- This promotion only applies to members with residence in Germany, Austria or Switzerland.
Why do they yet again limit a useful promo to people living in just DE, AT and CH? This means that anyone who might be enticed to consider M&M from other places or programs will be excluded, as anyone in those 3 countries is likely to have M&M as their main program already.
So they only offer the program to people who already essentially locked into M&M. Great marketing concept there!
Sep 2, 2018, 11:38 am
#3022
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,188
I am just sitting in the MUC SEN lounge and seeing this offer on the screen ... wow ... I need to book a ticket for November and was going to force it really hard on UA ticket stock for 11x miles ... but 25x? That's something to consider. Already have all my status for the year .... hmmm .... this will be a 8k ticket .... that's a LOT of miles. No cap? That's 200k miles ... tempting ... very tempting.
Last edited by mmff; Sep 2, 2018 at 11:43 am
Sep 2, 2018, 2:20 pm
#3023
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,017
man you are rubbing it in. Now I need to open a M&M account w/ my address in Germany and buy that ticket as a 220 ticket. Can't pass up that many miles. Add in some meilenschnaeppchen and this should work out nicely.
Sep 2, 2018, 5:02 pm
#3024
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,619
On the contrary, the miles are worth a lot now - at least the ones you still have as well as the ones you are getting for flights booked prior to 12.03.2018.
For most people flying on LH Group the award miles to be received for their tickets are drastically reduced, and they will certainly be enticed by this promotion. My schedule is already completely full, otherwise I'd certainly feel inclined to book a few trips.
Regarding your example of the 'bad' value of a redemption compared to a paid ticket, it fully depends on the situation. I agree that in your case it does not make a lot of sense, but if it were very short notice prices can go through the roof and then the miles can come in handy. As with all mileage programs, one has to do a bit of studying before actually using them. I'm a BA Gold by accident and had to read through the whole thread in order to somehow feel at ease by what Avios I was spending (christ, what a puzzle!). Same goes for M&M.
For most people flying on LH Group the award miles to be received for their tickets are drastically reduced, and they will certainly be enticed by this promotion. My schedule is already completely full, otherwise I'd certainly feel inclined to book a few trips.
Regarding your example of the 'bad' value of a redemption compared to a paid ticket, it fully depends on the situation. I agree that in your case it does not make a lot of sense, but if it were very short notice prices can go through the roof and then the miles can come in handy. As with all mileage programs, one has to do a bit of studying before actually using them. I'm a BA Gold by accident and had to read through the whole thread in order to somehow feel at ease by what Avios I was spending (christ, what a puzzle!). Same goes for M&M.
Sep 5, 2018, 4:10 am
#3025
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,188
It's that time of the year again and I'm looking for a way to get a few miles for my Economist renewal. Unfortunately, the link(s) below do not seem to work anymore and the best I see in my M&M page is 3.8k for EUR 280.
Does anyone have a link with a better offer? NewbieRunner?
Does anyone have a link with a better offer? NewbieRunner?
Here is a page linked from M&M's UK website but well hidden:
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...en&cid=1000243
Earn up to 11,400 award miles for a 1 year Print + Digital subscription for £179
Or 8,700 award miles for print or digital only for £145
Valid from 1 September until 30 November 2017
The actual subscription page is difficult to load
https://subscription.economist.com/O...-and-More/Trpl
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...en&cid=1000243
Earn up to 11,400 award miles for a 1 year Print + Digital subscription for £179
Or 8,700 award miles for print or digital only for £145
Valid from 1 September until 30 November 2017
The actual subscription page is difficult to load
https://subscription.economist.com/O...-and-More/Trpl
Sep 5, 2018, 5:25 am
#3027
Senior Moderator, Moderator: Community Buzz and Ambassador: Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 150km from MAN
Programs: LH SEN** HH Diamond
Posts: 29,511
It's that time of the year again and I'm looking for a way to get a few miles for my Economist renewal. Unfortunately, the link(s) below do not seem to work anymore and the best I see in my M&M page is 3.8k for EUR 280.
Does anyone have a link with a better offer? NewbieRunner?
Does anyone have a link with a better offer? NewbieRunner?
I just checked again and found this which I have not seen before. (Click The Economist logo on the front page.)
12,000 miles for £179 sounds a little better than the previous offer. Digital or print only subscriptions cost £145 but only give 9,600 miles. I've checked a few other countries but couldn't find a similar offer.
Sep 5, 2018, 9:02 am
#3029
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: WAW
Programs: A3(*G), Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,534
Raffles' HFP site has a mention of the Economist today. The offer should be good to go now. You might get a better deal trying a UK VPN, but I agree that the Avios deals tend to be better generally.
Sep 5, 2018, 5:21 pm
#3030
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,188