LH F is *very* good, but some ideas for improvement.
Jan 11, 2010, 2:13 am
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Jan 11, 2010, 2:50 am
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Award tickets. LH, BD, US... US was just offering the best deal to "purchase" LH F tickets. Every crisis has a silver lining... :-)
LH F is sub-standard and people purchasing full-fare tickets must be individuals who smoke bad stuff or are just not up to date what other airlines offer for same or less money. If you sell it as Business Plus and "purchase" tickets via the above ways it might be okay.
LH's unwillingness to improve the experience in the air is embarrassing. No mattress, no sheet to cover. All the DIY measures are not F.
LH F is sub-standard and people purchasing full-fare tickets must be individuals who smoke bad stuff or are just not up to date what other airlines offer for same or less money. If you sell it as Business Plus and "purchase" tickets via the above ways it might be okay.
LH's unwillingness to improve the experience in the air is embarrassing. No mattress, no sheet to cover. All the DIY measures are not F.
Jan 11, 2010, 4:08 am
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Not a practical problem for me. Since LH F is so horrible and unbearable that nobody pays full fare for it, so pretty much every seat is eventually sold as O (upgrade or award), right? 
Heck, I once got an O class award seat 9 hours before departure on a flight with an Amadeus availability of F1.
Heck, I once got an O class award seat 9 hours before departure on a flight with an Amadeus availability of F1.
Jan 11, 2010, 4:20 am
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LH F is sub-standard and people purchasing full-fare tickets must be individuals who smoke bad stuff or are just not up to date what other airlines offer for same or less money. If you sell it as Business Plus and "purchase" tickets via the above ways it might be okay.
LH's unwillingness to improve the experience in the air is embarrassing. No mattress, no sheet to cover. All the DIY measures are not F.
LH's unwillingness to improve the experience in the air is embarrassing. No mattress, no sheet to cover. All the DIY measures are not F.
i do not smoke anything at all. it just happens that if you live at an LH hub that they do offer the best flight options. more important for me than the inflight product is time-saving ... and i will not fly from FRA to PVG with TG or CX if I have to change planes somewhere and loose time.
in regards to your second point, i strongly agree. if i would not live near an LH hub and had to change planes anyway then i would avoid them -- and probably save money and get a better service as well.
i just want to point out that there are scenarios in which some people might book LH F without being on drugs.
Jan 11, 2010, 4:29 am
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i do not smoke anything at all. it just happens that if you live at an LH hub that they do offer the best flight options. more important for me than the inflight product is time-saving ... and i will not fly from FRA to PVG with TG or CX if I have to change planes somewhere and loose time
however, smoking from some funny tree might not be a bad idea in order to cope with what LH is offering!
Jan 11, 2010, 4:29 am
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I forgot to mention the tooth picks on LX , they alone are worth the ZRH connection .
Jan 11, 2010, 4:30 am
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i do not smoke anything at all. it just happens that if you live at an LH hub that they do offer the best flight options. more important for me than the inflight product is time-saving ... and i will not fly from FRA to PVG with TG or CX if I have to change planes somewhere and loose time.
Jan 11, 2010, 4:34 am
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Absolutely ,any time . Nothing wrong with flying LH F . Do it all the time , and happy . LX is just better in air , and they serve Louise as well.
Jan 11, 2010, 4:53 am
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the thing i am struggling to understand is why people using LH for those and no other reasons seem to be somewhat barred from exclaiming issues about the LH FC experience at all in the opinion of some "contributors" to this forum.
just for all of us to remeber, the OP was fine with his LH experience overall; fine with me, but the header also reads "room for improvements", which is fair comment imho....
Jan 11, 2010, 8:02 am
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why don't you just enlighten us about how much you like the milky screens the size of a cellphone monitor with a choice of 5 old movies max., the 3rd class spirits (wines are usually fine, i give you that), the italian farm "caviar" and the (nonexisting) taste of it, the seafood smelling like the poor creature has died behind a radiator weeks ago, which even the FA's feel ashamed of, the worn out (though spacy) seats, the power outlets, that won't feed a standart Dell plug, a.s.o., a.s.o....
maybe if you would, we would all wake up from a bad dream Lufthansa calls First Class, which in my opinion is an insult to a dozen or more airlines who actually deliver.
maybe if you would, we would all wake up from a bad dream Lufthansa calls First Class, which in my opinion is an insult to a dozen or more airlines who actually deliver.
Thanks for talking about all of us and waking up from a bad dream called Lufthansa First Class.
Would you mind to reduce your list of all by 1 (me). I usually can talk for myself and in particular when it comes to my bad dreams...
Jan 11, 2010, 8:18 am
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why don't you just enlighten us about how much you like the milky screens the size of a cellphone monitor with a choice of 5 old movies max.
the 3rd class spirits (wines are usually fine, i give you that), the italian farm "caviar" and the (nonexisting) taste of it, the seafood smelling like the poor creature has died behind a radiator weeks ago, which even the FA's feel ashamed of
the worn out (though spacy) seats, the power outlets, that won't feed a standart Dell plug, a.s.o., a.s.o....
maybe if you would, we would all wake up from a bad dream Lufthansa calls First Class, which in my opinion is an insult to a dozen or more airlines who actually deliver.
you seem to be the only one here that hates the product but keeps using it for whatever reason. i for one would never do that! if i don't like the product i don't use it, period!
what you don't seem to grasp is that there is people out here that don't mind flying LH F and who are perfectly fine with the offerings (me included).
okay, you may start your next rant now.....
Jan 11, 2010, 9:11 am
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i never did, but i finally get tempted to ask yours, since it looks like all you have to contribute here is bashing on other peoples' opinion...
why don't you just enlighten us about how much you like the milky screens the size of a cellphone monitor with a choice of 5 old movies max., the 3rd class spirits (wines are usually fine, i give you that), the italian farm "caviar" and the (nonexisting) taste of it, the seafood smelling like the poor creature has died behind a radiator weeks ago, which even the FA's feel ashamed of, the worn out (though spacy) seats, the power outlets, that won't feed a standart Dell plug, a.s.o., a.s.o....
maybe if you would, we would all wake up from a bad dream Lufthansa calls First Class, which in my opinion is an insult to a dozen or more airlines who actually deliver.
okay, you may start your next rant now.....
why don't you just enlighten us about how much you like the milky screens the size of a cellphone monitor with a choice of 5 old movies max., the 3rd class spirits (wines are usually fine, i give you that), the italian farm "caviar" and the (nonexisting) taste of it, the seafood smelling like the poor creature has died behind a radiator weeks ago, which even the FA's feel ashamed of, the worn out (though spacy) seats, the power outlets, that won't feed a standart Dell plug, a.s.o., a.s.o....
maybe if you would, we would all wake up from a bad dream Lufthansa calls First Class, which in my opinion is an insult to a dozen or more airlines who actually deliver.
okay, you may start your next rant now.....
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Jan 11, 2010, 9:34 am
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Jan 11, 2010, 9:46 am
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I agree with the OP that LH can be improve certain things but there is no carrier that is absolutely perfect and doesn't need to improve anything at any time. I do complain if things go wrong or if the service is not as it should be.
What I don't understand is the LH bashing by some posters, though. If someone hates the LH F product that much and think that there are far better airlines out there offering a far better overall product (read: ground experience, cabin, price, schedule etc.) simply stop LH and switch to the other carrier.
What I don't understand is the LH bashing by some posters, though. If someone hates the LH F product that much and think that there are far better airlines out there offering a far better overall product (read: ground experience, cabin, price, schedule etc.) simply stop LH and switch to the other carrier.