WSJ: LH To Launch A380 on FRA-JFK [merged first sheduled A380 destination thread]
Nov 7, 2009, 5:43 am
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BTW, there is a lot of new info from yesterday's meeting with LH's big bosses and it would be unfair to be buried (let alone the fact that it is off-topic) in this thread.
It will be, therefore, much easier for LH (and especially for Mr Antinori who proved that he is a regular reader of this forum) to access this info and check it out.
First itinerary for the A380 is something really minor, compared to the discussions that should start here given all this new info... This is a FF forum, not a plane spotter one.
Nov 7, 2009, 5:47 am
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According to what we learned yesterday, the real average Miles&More customer is spending his miles in the World Shop! As they explained, 80% of their sales are paid with miles, not money. 
Even if it would affect my possibility to book awards - maybe - as I am currently a FTL, I can understand the approach. You can't serve on a "come first - serve first" basis concerning the limited amount of award flights. Antinori is well aware that there are some people who use their credit card turnover and read newspaper to achieve miles and fly on LH First Class.
They have to make sure that they treat their HONs (SENs and maybe even FTLs) better than the so called "Abo-flyer", that's for sure. Antinori in my opinion has to find the middle way for that question, as he shouldn't limit the F award seats to MM status PAX only. By doing this, he would cut out all the other *A frequent flyers - what can not be the spirit of the programme in my eyes.
Even if it would affect my possibility to book awards - maybe - as I am currently a FTL, I can understand the approach. You can't serve on a "come first - serve first" basis concerning the limited amount of award flights. Antinori is well aware that there are some people who use their credit card turnover and read newspaper to achieve miles and fly on LH First Class.
They have to make sure that they treat their HONs (SENs and maybe even FTLs) better than the so called "Abo-flyer", that's for sure. Antinori in my opinion has to find the middle way for that question, as he shouldn't limit the F award seats to MM status PAX only. By doing this, he would cut out all the other *A frequent flyers - what can not be the spirit of the programme in my eyes.
Nov 7, 2009, 5:56 am
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Why should F on A 380 be more booked than than F on A 340 ? , I rarely had a problem to upgrade on A 340 .
As per an earlier post in this tread it seems like LH upper management is following this forum , and we should IMHO react as we did on lounge " enhancement " on the thoughts LH currently has on number of F seats , upgrade restrictions etc on the A 380.
As per an earlier post in this tread it seems like LH upper management is following this forum , and we should IMHO react as we did on lounge " enhancement " on the thoughts LH currently has on number of F seats , upgrade restrictions etc on the A 380.
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Nov 7, 2009, 6:22 am
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If you read how some FTers are not aware of the difference between the old and new configurations on LX A333, average customers are unlikely to prefer one or the other. But then more average customers may be aware of the difference between A380 and other products.
Nov 7, 2009, 6:35 am
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[QUOTE=NewbieRunner;12783213]
Agreed
Is anyone aware of this yet ? Except that LH is trying to delay deliveries as much as ever possible , 8? almost non- upgradable seats in F ,a urinal in F WC
, possibly fully flat C and avod in Y
If you read how some FTers are not aware of the difference between the old and new configurations on LX A333, average customers are unlikely to prefer one or the other.
But then more average customers may be aware of the difference between A380 and other products.
, possibly fully flat C and avod in Y
Nov 7, 2009, 8:38 am
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How many 380 does LH have on order , what is current delivery schedule ?
Nov 7, 2009, 9:34 am
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OK, I guess that sounds blue-eyed now: Because that is not the spirit of Star Alliance.
What these "other *A carriers" are doing is - in my opinion - like "OK, we play the *A game a little bit, but the best we keep for us". I am well aware that we have different service and quality levels within *A. But if they want to create a REAL Alliance, all the members have to contribute. And I think they should not contribute only the basic service they MUST do.
Might be more a wish or an imagination I have about that, but I think if every *A member only is looking to put down the service for other *A customers, the whole system will go down and be even worse than it is now. If they want to be different from others, they have to build up and keep a level *A-wide which is outstanding compared to all other carriers out there.
But that's just my 2 cents.
What these "other *A carriers" are doing is - in my opinion - like "OK, we play the *A game a little bit, but the best we keep for us". I am well aware that we have different service and quality levels within *A. But if they want to create a REAL Alliance, all the members have to contribute. And I think they should not contribute only the basic service they MUST do.
Might be more a wish or an imagination I have about that, but I think if every *A member only is looking to put down the service for other *A customers, the whole system will go down and be even worse than it is now. If they want to be different from others, they have to build up and keep a level *A-wide which is outstanding compared to all other carriers out there.
But that's just my 2 cents.
Nov 7, 2009, 11:19 am
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I'd actually appreciate if LH limited F awards to SENs and HONs. At least this would be an incentive to go for SEN instead of crediting to easy *G option like TK, BD, AC etc... (and I have played the BD game a lot!)
Nov 7, 2009, 11:21 am
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Nov 7, 2009, 12:07 pm
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Even if I partially understand your point of view, what about yourself using awards on other *A-carrier? Imagine UA giving away F-Awards only to 1Ks. Think of AC or NZ limiting their Executive First or Business to Super Elite respectively Gold Elite? Would you only go where LH flies or sit in Y? Because nobody says that only carriers with 3-class-products would be "allowed" to cut their available award seats down.