TATL Z-Fares: No more U/G's to F and no business class bonus miles!!
Was just browsing through some ticket rules for TATL business class fares on LH and came across this:
Z CLASS FARES ARE NOT UPGRADABLE TO FIRST CLASS. NEITHER MILEAGE NOR CERTIFICATES MAY BE USED TO UPGRADE THIS FARE. PASSENGERS WISHING TO HAVE THE OPTION TO UPGRADE SHOULD PURCHASE C OR D CLASS PER THE RULES OF THOSE SPECIFIC FARES. CORPORATE VOLUME DISCOUNTS ARE ALSO NOT PERMITTED. Z CLASS FARES ACCRUE BASE MILES AND ELITE STATUS BONUS MILES BUT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CABIN/CLASS OF SERVICE BONUS MILES. I checked this for several TATL routes, both into Germany as well as to other European destinations and it seems to be true for each route that I checked. If that's true (especially no class of service bonus miles), then it would be a major downside |
Originally Posted by berlinflyer
(Post 12473238)
I checked this for several TATL routes, both into Germany as well as to other European destinations and it seems to be true for each route that I checked.
If that's true (especially no class of service bonus miles), then it would be a major downside |
Originally Posted by hch
(Post 12474563)
This language in the fare rules has been around for many years. It documents the UA rules for Z fares and has never been applied to the LH earning / upgrade procedures.
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Originally Posted by berlinflyer
(Post 12473238)
I am happy!
Originally Posted by sentom
(Post 12475159)
happy...
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As others said . . .
The part about Z flights not being upgradable only applies to flights operated by UA. The part about not earning class of service bonus miles only applies to Mileage Plus. |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 12475983)
Is this the start of a trend. ;)
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well thats a relief, as I am flying out tomorrow on a tatl Z on LH....
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Originally Posted by hch
(Post 12474563)
This language in the fare rules has been around for many years. It documents the UA rules for Z fares and has never been applied to the LH earning / upgrade procedures.
ZRSMY21E ZRSMY7E ZRSMY5E ZRSN30E ZRAP30E ZRSMY4E ZRSN50E and they all include the following: Z CLASS FARES ACCRUE BASE MILES AND ELITE STATUS BONUS MILES BUT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CABIN/CLASS OF SERVICE BONUS MILES. Am I reading this correctly? P.S. I also checked FRA-JFK RT (i.e. originating in FRA) and did not find any statement about COS bonus miles. It looks like the "no COS bonus" rule only applies to fares ex-US. |
Originally Posted by Ari
(Post 12476861)
As others said . . .
The part about Z flights not being upgradable only applies to flights operated by UA. |
just to confirm what others said before:
I have been on 4 TATL Z Trips this year, got business miles for each of them and upgraded all of them. will be on my next in 2 weeks and guess what: upgrade confirmed :) |
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 12478966)
I checked KVS for the following Z fare rules for JFK-FRA RT which apply to ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH:
ZRSMY21E ZRSMY7E ZRSMY5E ZRSN30E ZRAP30E ZRSMY4E ZRSN50E and they all include the following: Z CLASS FARES ACCRUE BASE MILES AND ELITE STATUS BONUS MILES BUT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CABIN/CLASS OF SERVICE BONUS MILES. Am I reading this correctly? P.S. I also checked FRA-JFK RT (i.e. originating in FRA) and did not find any statement about COS bonus miles. It looks like the "no COS bonus" rule only applies to fares ex-US. |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 12479797)
You are reading this correctly but as all the other have said, this doesn't apply to M&M even so the fare rules seem to indicate this.
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Yawn !
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Originally Posted by Rambuster
(Post 12480091)
Yawn !
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Originally Posted by berlinflyer
(Post 12473238)
Was just browsing through some ticket rules for TATL business class fares on LH and came across this:
Z CLASS FARES ARE NOT UPGRADABLE TO FIRST CLASS. NEITHER MILEAGE NOR CERTIFICATES MAY BE USED TO UPGRADE THIS FARE. PASSENGERS WISHING TO HAVE THE OPTION TO UPGRADE SHOULD PURCHASE C OR D CLASS PER THE RULES OF THOSE SPECIFIC FARES. CORPORATE VOLUME DISCOUNTS ARE ALSO NOT PERMITTED. Z CLASS FARES ACCRUE BASE MILES AND ELITE STATUS BONUS MILES BUT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CABIN/CLASS OF SERVICE BONUS MILES. I checked this for several TATL routes, both into Germany as well as to other European destinations and it seems to be true for each route that I checked. If that's true (especially no class of service bonus miles), then it would be a major downside big mouth yawn |
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