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mackeff Sep 28, 05 12:40 pm

Lounges at LAX - Access, Showers, Questions, Which One? [Consolidated thread]
 
Sorry if the answer is elsewhere onsite . . . a search gave me lots of info about related subjects, but not this. The LAX site maps aren't very specific.

I've got 5 hours in LAX between SYD and YVR, am *A gold [though travelling in the back] and would like to be away from the main crowds for a time. Will be in terminal 2 after the arrival 'routines'.

A map site would be fine, or directions.

Thanks for the help.

==========MODERATOR NOTE===========


Link to LAX PDF terminals maps terminal by terminal, with shops, services

Link to LAX Terminals and Airlines Map (PDF, viewable)


LIST OF CURRENT LOUNGES

● Terminal 1 (none)
● Terminal 2 (Air Canada Maple Leaf Lounge, Air New Zealand Lounge, Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse)
● Terminal 3 (Virgin America Loft)
● Terminal 4 (American Airlines Admiral's Club, American Airlines Flagship Lounge)
● Terminal 5 (Delta Air Lines Sky Club)
● Terminal 5 Remote Terminal (American Airlines Admirals Club)
● Terminal 6 (Alaska Airlines Board Room)
● Terminal 7 (United Airlines GlobalFirst Lounge, United Club)
● Tom Bradley International Terminal (oneworld Alliance Lounge, Star Alliance Lounge, Emirates Lounge, Etihad Airways Lounge, KAL Lounge, Qantas Lounge, LA International Lounge)
● Bob Hope Hollywood USO Lounge (Military and families)

obscure2k Sep 28, 05 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by mackeff
Sorry if the answer is elsewhere onsite . . . a search gave me lots of info about related subjects, but not this. The LAX site maps aren't very specific.

I've got 5 hours in LAX between SYD and YVR, am *A gold [though travelling in the back] and would like to be away from the main crowds for a time. Will be in terminal 2 after the arrival 'routines'.

A map site would be fine, or directions.

Thanks for the help.

After security you will find yourself in the hall with restaurants, gift shops, etc. Look for an elevator on the right. The elevator will take you to the lounges p.s. press the "UP" button.

Kiwi Flyer Sep 28, 05 6:10 pm

I presume the LAX-SYD travel is on Air NZ (Air Canada doesnt operate this route) via AKL or CHC. If you're travelling on United or Qantas then wont have any access to the lounges as need a boarding pass to get airside (where the lounges are) and UA & QF depart from different terminals so wont get access to T2 airside.

mackeff Sep 28, 05 8:45 pm

obscure2k
Thanks; seems easy enough, even if I'm not too alert after ~14 hours in the air.

Kiwi Flyer
My SYD - LAX is UA 840, landing at T6; my LAX - YVR is UA 8456 [op by AC], departing T2 five hours later. I'm making the assumption I'll have a BP soon after making the trek from T6 into T2. :)

Kiwi Flyer Sep 28, 05 8:58 pm

Righto - I was thinking of travel in the opposite direction

You might want to try to visit the Air NZ lounge (afaik AC Maple Leaf Lounge doesnt have showers or even bathroom) which is upstairs per obscure2k's directions (in fact right next to MLL). It has recently been refurbished and is very nice, including shower suites. Depending on time of day you may not be allowed in (gets very crowded when the bank of Air NZ flights leave).

IceTrojan Sep 28, 05 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by mackeff
obscure2k
Thanks; seems easy enough, even if I'm not too alert after ~14 hours in the air.

Kiwi Flyer
My SYD - LAX is UA 840, landing at T6; my LAX - YVR is UA 8456 [op by AC], departing T2 five hours later. I'm making the assumption I'll have a BP soon after making the trek from T6 into T2. :)

A UAer would know more than I, but I *think* T6 is connected airside to T7 (where the UA RCC is) If so, that's one choice.

At T2, there's AC Maple Leaf Lounge.

BTW, to get from T6 to T2, I would suggest going downstairs to the arrivals level, exit T6, and cut straight ahead through the parking garages to get to T2 (instead of walking "the horseshoe" or taking the LAX shuttle (which might take a while... unless you have check-in baggage with you).

SkiAdcock Sep 29, 05 12:17 pm

T6 & T7 'are' connected airside as IceTrojan surmised. Also agree w/ his shortcut. He's also spot on w/ the 'shortcut'.

BTW - when you do that you'll pass Encounter, which is a restaurant/bar in the space-agey looking building. It's not normally that crowded & is a great place to have drink/watch planes landing & taking off. Just enter & take the elevator (goofy-space music in elevator).

Cheers.

1kBill Sep 29, 05 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
T6 & T7 'are' connected airside as IceTrojan surmised. Also agree w/ his shortcut. He's also spot on w/ the 'shortcut'.

BTW - when you do that you'll pass Encounter, which is a restaurant/bar in the space-agey looking building. It's not normally that crowded & is a great place to have drink/watch planes landing & taking off. Just enter & take the elevator (goofy-space music in elevator).

Cheers.

While T6 & T7 are connected airside, OP is arriving from international, so he/she will exit T6 outside of security. I am doubtful he will be allowed back in without a UA or CO BP. Even if he could get back in, the AC lounge is better than UA RCC, so I'd pick that.

If your carry-on's aren't too heavy, you might just want to walk the "horseshoe" to get from T6 to T2. You'll have plenty of time to kill, so you might not want to spend it all inside the AC lounge. (I don't know NZ lounge since it has been renovated.) Being outside in the day light may help with adjusting time zones. But the suggestion to cut through the parking garages also works.

Also agree with suggestion about trying the Encounters restaurant. I may have an opportunity to go there in November myself.

mackeff Sep 30, 05 3:29 pm

Thank you, everyone, for the good answers. I appreciate your time.

My one-and-only experience in LAX [May '04], I had no idea where anything was and stopped in a bar where a very small glass of wine was $9. This time, I'm going to be better prepared for my 5 hours there!

IceTrojan Sep 30, 05 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by mackeff
Thank you, everyone, for the good answers. I appreciate your time.

My one-and-only experience in LAX [May '04], I had no idea where anything was and stopped in a bar where a very small glass of wine was $9. This time, I'm going to be better prepared for my 5 hours there!


And with 5 hours, you might want to try to hit up In-and-Out :D ^

SkiAdcock Oct 1, 05 7:47 pm

Well I think any bar you stop at at an airport is going to be expensive - I think Encounter wines are $7-10, but they're a normal size glass. I thought I read recently that the Air New Zealand lounge post renovation is quite nice.

Heck, w/ 5 hours you could catch one of the airport hotel shuttles to hotel (ie, Hilton, Sheraton, Westin, etc) & then take the Century Blvd shuttle to Manhattan Beach, or the Hilton Garden Inn - El Segundo shuttle to Manhattan Beach, and have a bite to eat/drink there/walk on the pier, and then catch shuttle back.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 1, 05 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
Well I think any bar you stop at at an airport is going to be expensive

Unless its free - like in the Air NZ lounge for instance ;)

SkiAdcock Oct 4, 05 1:23 am

Well that goes w/o saying KiwiFlyer!! Cheers.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 11, 06 12:44 pm

Brand new interim business lounge at LAX Tom Bradley (TBIT)
 
Yesterday was the first day this lounge was open. It looks and smells brand new. By sheer coincidence I happened to be flying out of TBIT yesterday.

There is a shuttle bus to & from gate 118 (very close to the right hand screening point) every 5 to 10 minutes in the evening (not sure of frequency at other times of day), and it takes about 5 minutes to reach the lounge depending on aircraft movements. So if have less than 30 minutes before boarding don't bother with a lounge visit - it isnt worthwhile. You need an invitation card to access the shuttle - no card no access regardless of what your boarding pass says. This also means you can't do multiple visits, since the invite card is removed before you board the shuttle.

Looks like about 400 chairs, all laid out closely in a big open plan with one corner partly screened off from the rest. There are 4 or 5 computer terminals with an outrageous internet charge of $0.25 per minute, minimum $3.

All plates, utensils and cups are plastic - yuk. Food is low quality - chips, cheese and crackers, mini sandwiches (mostly grilled vege flavour), small selection of fruit. Drink quality is low - eg cheap local sparkling wine in 187ml bottle instead of champagne, Johnnie Walker Red, etc. No drink chits needed and all self serve (so no tips needed either).

While it wasn't too busy when I was there (for one of the earliest evening departures) with maybe 150 people, I could imagine it getting claustrophobically busy in peak travel periods.

There are toilets but no shower and no bathroom amenities (other than paper towels).

There is only 1 rubbish bin in the public area of the lounge, but staff wander around clearing away the rubbish.

There is no tv or even a monitor showing flight status. Instead when it is time to board someone wanders the lounge with a small blackboard and flight number is written on it, ringing a bell to attract attention! I suggest you don't go to the loo at the wrong time or you'd easily miss it.

Some airlines have ground staff circulating in the lounge. They say expect at least 12 to 18 months, and confirmed that top tier elites who would normally have access to first lounge when not flying first will indeed have to slum it in this interim lounge.

There are no magazines and only a very limited selection and quantity of newspapers.

I hope this info helps. Please ask if I haven't mentioned something you want to know.

globetrekker84 Oct 11, 06 1:01 pm

Are you sure you weren't in a third-world country? That sounds awful and a sorry excuse for a interim lounge. Thanks for the info.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 11, 06 1:14 pm

My overall impression is like a giant RCC or AC.

SNA_Flyer Oct 11, 06 1:40 pm

Thanks for the update. I'll pretty much avoid TBIT in this case, choosing flights from T4 (to SYD instead of MEL with a connect), or to HKG via SFO.

While it doesn't sound much more terrible than the old business class lounges, not having First lounge access that I'd normally have is a bit of a turn off.

Savage25 Oct 11, 06 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
My overall impression is like a giant RCC ...

...which automatically qualifies it as a "third-world country" lounge :p

TerryK Oct 11, 06 4:27 pm

OMG! :td: I hope you just had a bad dream. :D :D

serfty Oct 11, 06 5:07 pm

I once titled a thread "T-Bit or not T-Bit, that is the question"; back then the answer was NO.

I guess it still is ...

EVA Air Oct 11, 06 7:16 pm

Thanks for your review! I'm looking forward to the new consolidated lounges.

sherisk8z Oct 12, 06 7:24 am

First class lounge?
 
Any info/feedback on the first class lounge yet?

kanebear Oct 12, 06 11:19 am

Doesn't sound terribly different from quite a few of the TBIT lounges anyway...

itsaboutthejourney Oct 12, 06 11:38 am

Thanks for the report Kiwi Flyer!

As many of you know, our airport may be a sh**hole, but Los Angeles is a great city. I'm often embarrased to call LAX my home airport.

Also, yesterday LAX officials announced it's first in-terminal advertising, so maybe next time your lounge visit will be "enhanced" by an Ad for Viagra or some new laptop?

Vunder31 Oct 12, 06 11:56 am

Kiwi Flyer, since you are the resident Air NZ expert, I'm sure you can answer this one:

Air NZ still operates out of T2 at LAX, right? And their Koru Club lounge in T2 is still open?
It would be really bad if Air NZ decided to move to the TBIT and then people would have to use the interim (and later the new *A) lounge instead of the Koru Club.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 12, 06 12:04 pm

Yes NZ uses T2 and has it's own (very nice) lounge there.

jsgoldbe Oct 13, 06 11:54 am

Anyone have any photos yet?

TravelTil Oct 14, 06 7:38 pm

Hi Kiwiflyer,

Thanks very much for the heads up. It looks like a request for a late checkout is in order to avoid spending more than the minimum time at the airport. Luckily, it doesn't look like the loading on my flight back from LAX over the Xmas/ New Year period is too bad, so hopefully won't be too crowded.

It's funny how those media releases differ from reality, isn't it?

TravelTil


From the media releases.

AIRLINES OPEN INTERIM FIRST CLASS, BUSINESS CLASS LOUNGES WHILE CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY AT LAX’S BRADLEY TERMINAL


(Los Angeles, California – October 10, 2006) First- and business-class travelers using airlines in the Tom Bradley International Terminal at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) will still enjoy the comfort and service of its premium passenger lounges with the opening of two interim lounges while the building is undergoing a $575.6-million renovation.

LAXTEC Corporation, representative of the Bradley Terminal’s consortium of 33 airlines, is giving the airline community and travel-and-tourism industry an opportunity to see the interim first class and business lounges today during a tour of the waiting areas. LAXTEC paid more than $2.5 million to develop the two interim lounges which will open today. They will be in use for the next eight months while four permanent consolidated airline lounges are being constructed.

Frank Clark, executive director of LAXTEC said, "While both lounges are temporary, great care has been taken in design and execution to provide airlines’ premium passengers with the level of comfort and service they have come to expect."

The 4,000-foot, interim first-class lounge, located on the Bradley’s Terminal’s mezzanine level, is designed for 133 guests. The interim business-class lounge is 16,000 square feet and designed for 578 guests. It is located on a vacant ramp area opposite the terminal and is reached from the Bradley Terminal’s Gate 118 by continuously operating motor coaches.

Clark estimated airlines in the Bradley Terminal will pay about $7 million to operate the two interim lounges during the construction period.

Opening of the interim lounges allows for the demolition of Bradley Terminal’s 16 existing airline lounges on its fourth and fifth floors. Demolition is scheduled to be completed Nov. 30 and then work will start on four new lounge groups. Three new lounges will serve airline alliances, and the fourth is for customers of airlines not affiliated with an alliance.

Clark said the new lounges are scheduled to be completed May 2007. Airlines are paying the entire $15- to $20-million cost of the upgraded lounges. While each of the four new lounges will vary in size and occupancy, the overall lounge space in the Bradley Terminal will grow from the current 27,000 square feet to 47,000 square feet – an increase of 72 percent.

The renovation of the Bradley Terminal is the largest single construction project in the history of the City of Los Angeles. Unlike most airport projects where the building is closed to occupants, airlines will continue providing service to 10 million passengers annually during the 38-month construction schedule that begins January 2007. A wide range of improvements will be made to the building, including the installation of a $140-million, in-line baggage security screening system, state-of-the-art dynamic signage, improved lighting and finishes, and up-to-date information technology systems to speed the check-in process for passengers.

elitetraveler Oct 22, 06 4:14 am

Wow - that makes DEL seem pretty good. Sounds like an Amtrak station.

LAX UA 1K Oct 22, 06 4:47 am

I thought the lounge was very nice. After reading this and other threads I had a negative view but was pleasantly surprised. I was there late evening when it was almost empty. I thought they did a nice job and the food offerings looked acceptable for a business class lounge, although not lavish in any way. The beverage offerings were similarly acceptable but not lavish. There were hundreds of seats and the decor I found quite attractive and relaxing.

My gripe is that it took around 20 minutes for the trip there and back and as I didn't arrive very early, I spent most of my time going to and from and never really sat down. I waited around 5 minutes for the bus and it's easily a 5 minute ride there. They were already calling my flight when I arrived by the bus was not yet there. It took the bus at least 10 minutes to show up so I drank in view of the door until the time. Then 5 minutes ride back.

Now that I have seen it, I would not bother going out unless I have over 30 minutes until boarding begins.

Next week I hope to see the interim F lounge.

Charles

elitetraveler Oct 22, 06 4:51 am

Does anyone have pics of this or the F lounge. I was picturing a giant hangar with some leftover parts from a TW L1011 in the corner blocked off with some tables that have surplus peanuts and pretzels leftover when NW decided to go snackless :)

LAX UA 1K Oct 22, 06 4:52 am

They seem to be working out the kinks of no invite cards. The evening I was there (October 15), there were several passengers who had connected and already had their boarding passes so had no need to check in at LAX. The bus agent was figuring out a procedure to log their lounge visit to the proper airline so they could go out without a card. I suspect they will have a system to handle this soon. They seemed surprised at first that someone could have checked in somewhere besides LAX.

I think the airlines at TBIT are well aware of the need to issue lounge cards and SQ at least had a detailed sign explaining who got access where and that cards were required.

Charles

LAX UA 1K Oct 22, 06 5:06 am


Originally Posted by elitetraveler
Does anyone have pics of this or the F lounge. I was picturing a giant hangar with some leftover parts from a TW L1011 in the corner blocked off with some tables that have surplus peanuts and pretzels leftover when NW decided to go snackless :)

I didn't take pictures. But in my opinion the look is very elegant and relaxing, especially considering the large size. I liked the color schemes and furniture (although I don't know if there are lounge-type chairs for napping). I think the food was a little better than kiwi traveler's initial report (same idea but I saw a bit more variety). You do have to eat on disposable plates with plastic forks and use plastic cups.

And I actually liked the signboard to quietly announce boarding flights. But I agree with the implied suggestion that you should also have an idea when it is going to be time to board. If your airline has staff in the lounge, they can give you an idea when you will be called for boarding. Monitors with flight status would be a nice addition.

For a temporary lounge, I thought they made it nicer than necessary. I would be thrilled to find a lounge of this quality in many airports I visit both here in the USA and abroad.

Charles

Kiwi Flyer Oct 22, 06 5:17 am


Originally Posted by LAX UA 1K
I would be thrilled to find a lounge of this quality in many airports I visit both here in the USA and abroad.

Perhaps this shows the difference in our travel patterns. I found it a very fourth rate lounge.

Boraxo Oct 22, 06 12:58 pm

i didn't think it was possible to find a lounge at TBIT worse than Korean Air (sadly shared with Swiss) but it sounds like we have a winner.

Pathetic. Guess I will have to look for int'l flights closer to home as I woould rather sit in the beautiful SFO international terminal any day than suffer through this crap at TBIT. Not to mention the horrid checkin setup, terminal, etc.

itsaboutthejourney Oct 23, 06 2:37 am

FWIW: The LA Times Biz section on Saturday had a very positive article on the lounge. link

wr_schwab Oct 23, 06 7:47 am

Please see post #28 in the thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602997 for my review of the new F lounge.

PresRDC Oct 23, 06 1:58 pm

If your flight is leavign from one of those remote gates, do you have to go back to Tom Bradley and connect to another bus or are the airlines providing direct bus service to the relevant remote gate?

Kiwi Flyer Oct 23, 06 2:01 pm

I think you have to go back to the terminal and pick up another bus.

SanDiego1K Oct 23, 06 3:08 pm

I'm currently in the F lounge and am underwhelmed. Besides the excellent information given in the link above, the designers have taken no consideration of the fact that many of us need to charge our laptops and phones. There is roughly 1 outlet for every 5 groups of 4 chairs. The larger groups appear to have no outlets available at all. You need to scope out the entire lounge before choosing a place to sit if this matters to you.

Internet costs $7.95/day. Why couldn't it be provided free? After all, we are F passengers.

LH tells me they offer no fast track nor assistance thru security. It is up to me to chose a time to leave the lounge that allows time for the security dance.

Food offerings are negligible; although they always were at Bradley.


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