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IceTrojan Mar 12, 07 6:33 am

I can't wait to be able to write a report on the new lounges. ^

Anyone with a more detailed review of the J lounge?

number_6 Mar 12, 07 11:11 am


Originally Posted by IceTrojan (Post 7386664)
I can't wait to be able to write a report on the new lounges. ^

Anyone with a more detailed review of the J lounge?

Search and you will find. Several multi-page TBIT J and F lounge reviews are already out there on FT (in the various airline fora). But boring stuff, these aren't in the "best 100 airport lounges in the world" list. The bottom line is that the J/F temp lounges are surprisingly good for a temp lounge (as they should be, costing over USD 10 million for the airlines!) but still crummy (no better and generally worse than the old TBIT lounges). Now the new TBIT lounges should be stunning, and worth writing about (as will the new BA lounges in T5 when they open in 2008, though not many will get access to the nicer BA lounges as they won't be Emerald accessible).

IceTrojan Mar 12, 07 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 7388029)
Search and you will find.

Well, the MO of FT seems to be to ask blindly and have the answer be given to you. Why shouldn't I be the beneficiary of that too? :D

nigelloring Mar 23, 07 8:44 am

Which lounges at LAX have showers?

and when will the renovation be completed?

I am travelling F ORD-LAX-MEL in November and really want to take a shower before the transpacific leg.

Thanks!

davethewave Mar 23, 07 5:59 pm

Having experienced the interim F lounge, I must admit is was overall a decent
place to veg. Beer was cold, and the Heineken bottles were small Dutch-sized so they went down quicker. The sushi was edible with no after-effects and the view was good too.
And there was no wait to go through security for SQ 11 at 12:30 or so.

spurg Mar 23, 07 6:44 pm

Nice work Ice.

spurg Mar 23, 07 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by nigelloring (Post 7455739)
Which lounges at LAX have showers?

and when will the renovation be completed?

I am travelling F ORD-LAX-MEL in November and really want to take a shower before the transpacific leg.

Thanks!

TBIT is not great. If you have along connection, walk over to the AA AC and take a proper shower.

number_6 Mar 23, 07 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by nigelloring (Post 7455739)
Which lounges at LAX have showers?

and when will the renovation be completed?

I am travelling F ORD-LAX-MEL in November and really want to take a shower before the transpacific leg.

Thanks!

By Nov 2007 the TBIT lounge renovation is complete, and there will be a single OW lounge at TBIT -- so no more lounge hopping. All lounges will have showers, and be much nicer than the old ones.

None of the temp lounges have showers, so if traveling before fall 2007 you are limited to using the temp lounges. ORD-LAX does arrive at T4 and both AC and FL have showers in T4. MEL flight leaves from TBIT but you can check in with QF at the AC in T4 (you do need to do this, they replace your ORD issued BP with a real QF pass, and failing to do this is big trouble).

FlyingBear Mar 24, 07 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 6647726)
OAK is even more of a dump but I'll bet the in-n-out burger on hegenberger is a lot closer timewise. There is also a Starbucks, Jamba and Quiznos for those who have had their daily grease ration and don't want to pay ripoff terminal prices. :cool:

Sorry, I gotta give this one to LAX. Being able to go onto the Spot shuttle, get off right next to the In-n-Out and watch landings is way better than Oakland and the Walmart :p

I'm ok with walk in the day, definitely not in the evening though, especially having played roller hockey a block away and seen many a player's car which has been broken into. I also remember the armed guard at the Denny's after a game :rolleyes:

If you don't want to walk, you could take the 58 down there, but those are intermittent. Can't really think of a shuttle that will take you right there; VIP is a few blocks away, but that's about it.

On the plus side, Oakland has Wing Stop too, which is pretty good and worth the wait... well sometimes, but if you have the number you can call ahead (and multiply their estimate by 2x at peak periods :p )

IceTrojan Apr 17, 07 4:05 am

Links to pics of the "F" lounge added.

G702TT May 3, 07 9:47 pm

More than Adequate Itermin Lounge
 
With the previous comments you would think the TBIT Iterim business class lounge was a greyhound waiting room. Not so. There is a wide variety of snacks, canned juices sandwiches and pastries. Also, there were beers and strong alcoholic beverages for those who demand that as an integral part of the experience. There were two computers for Internet access as well as about 200 comfortable chairs. While their were no departure screens, I actually don't have a problem with that since I prefer to look at my boarding pass and my watch to determine for myself when it is best to leave. The large room was well lit and the cleaning staff worked hard to clear any used plates and keep the place clean. A staff of two people were at the front to help with any passenger issues. The bus ride takes 5 minutes. I was there in late December prior to a 12:30am KE flight to ICN. The lounge was not crowded at all. I found a nice quiet place way in the corner to read the newspaper. Although I suppose it could get loud and obnoxious during busier times when every seat would be taken. While the Bradley terminal is not up to ICN, SIN or HKG standards by any stretch, I will take the short trip to the interim lounge any day over waiting at the gate. Some people can be a little too picky I guess, but at least for those who really hate it, its only temporary. I'm sure the lounge and terminal improvements will be well worth the wait.

bhd87 May 3, 07 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by globetrekker84 (Post 6516968)
Are you sure you weren't in a third-world country? That sounds awful and a sorry excuse for a interim lounge. Thanks for the info.

TBIT is a third world country. :mad:

Taker Park May 4, 07 4:38 am

Tbit
 
TBIT is a third world country. Especially with half of the terminal ripped up for "renovations". It's even "nicer" now that they're dealing with the water damage from the water main break.

1worldtrader May 7, 07 2:08 pm

Just returned from a tpac trip via TBIT. TBIT is a joke, a complete embarrassment for a city such as Los Angeles. After checking in for my flight (J class on KE) , I had to then stand in another line outside of the terminal for 1 hour :td: just to put my bags through screening. Then, off to the security check to get airside.....

I took the bus to the J lounge... Okay for an interim lounge, but still left a lot to be desired. The gate area was disgusting - I did not even want to sit down because of the filth.

Coming back through the customs area in TBIT: it is such a complete dump; what a welcome mat we lay out for our foreign visitors. Almost dungeon-like. Having been through customs facililties in HEL, WAW, AMS, HKG and KUL within the past 2 months, it is quite evident that LAX is FAR below world-class quality. :(

obscure2k May 7, 07 5:18 pm

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number_6 May 7, 07 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by 1worldtrader (Post 7702042)
Just returned from a tpac trip via TBIT. TBIT is a joke, a complete embarrassment for a city such as Los Angeles. After checking in for my flight (J class on KE) , I had to then stand in another line outside of the terminal for 1 hour :td: just to put my bags through screening. Then, off to the security check to get airside.....

I took the bus to the J lounge... Okay for an interim lounge, but still left a lot to be desired. The gate area was disgusting - I did not even want to sit down because of the filth.

Coming back through the customs area in TBIT: it is such a complete dump; what a welcome mat we lay out for our foreign visitors. Almost dungeon-like. Having been through customs facililties in HEL, WAW, AMS, HKG and KUL within the past 2 months, it is quite evident that LAX is FAR below world-class quality. :(

Two solutions:

1. Wait a year. LAX is spending over USD 700 million to renovate TBIT, specifically targeting all the problems that you cited (except for the flying KE bit, but that isn't related to LAX).

2. Fly AA or QF out of T4, which has a beautiful lounge and clean, spacious and fast immigration and customs. Proving that LAX can be world-class quality -- it just varies with which airline you choose to fly. AA (and QF) spent USD 300 million on the improvements to "their" terminal (which LAX still owns), so the nice customs/immigration is not accidental, it comes from an investment by the airline to have better facilities for their pax.

In TBIT it is very hard to get the various airlines to pay for any improvement to this (shared) terminal, as there are over a dozen airlines involved, and they all look for someone else to pay for it. Doesn't excuse the mess that TBIT became in the past decade, but it does explain it.

Taker Park May 8, 07 6:39 am


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 7703780)
Two solutions:

1. Wait a year. LAX is spending over USD 700 million to renovate TBIT, specifically targeting all the problems that you cited (except for the flying KE bit, but that isn't related to LAX).

2. Fly AA or QF out of T4, which has a beautiful lounge and clean, spacious and fast immigration and customs. Proving that LAX can be world-class quality -- it just varies with which airline you choose to fly. AA (and QF) spent USD 300 million on the improvements to "their" terminal (which LAX still owns), so the nice customs/immigration is not accidental, it comes from an investment by the airline to have better facilities for their pax.

In TBIT it is very hard to get the various airlines to pay for any improvement to this (shared) terminal, as there are over a dozen airlines involved, and they all look for someone else to pay for it. Doesn't excuse the mess that TBIT became in the past decade, but it does explain it.

If I may add something, currently some of the QF and AA international flights are clearing customs in TBIT.

B-HQC May 8, 07 6:58 am

I will be on CX883 dep 2350 next week in J (with Emerald status), but it looks like I will only have access to the interim J lounge. Given this, I will probably try to arrive at TBIT as late as posible. I haven't departed through here in more than two years and I'm not exactly sure how much time is generally needed to check in / get to the gate - can anyone advise?

IceTrojan May 8, 07 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by B-HQC (Post 7705865)
I will be on CX883 dep 2350 next week in J (with Emerald status), but it looks like I will only have access to the interim J lounge. Given this, I will probably try to arrive at TBIT as late as posible. I haven't departed through here in more than two years and I'm not exactly sure how much time is generally needed to check in / get to the gate - can anyone advise?

YMMV, but see here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...73&postcount=1

1worldtrader May 8, 07 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by B-HQC (Post 7705865)
I will be on CX883 dep 2350 next week in J (with Emerald status), but it looks like I will only have access to the interim J lounge. Given this, I will probably try to arrive at TBIT as late as posible. I haven't departed through here in more than two years and I'm not exactly sure how much time is generally needed to check in / get to the gate - can anyone advise?

I am not sure what time that flight departs, but if it is late night / early morning, the terminal is pretty packed with the pax heading to Asia, which means the luggage security screening can take a while. Took me an hour just for that line, then I still had to go through the terminal security check. And I was in J. There was no special J&F line for luggage screening.....(AFAIK) It really is just a [email protected]

1worldtrader May 8, 07 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 7703780)
Two solutions:

1. Wait a year. LAX is spending over USD 700 million to renovate TBIT, specifically targeting all the problems that you cited (except for the flying KE bit, but that isn't related to LAX).

2. Fly AA or QF out of T4, which has a beautiful lounge and clean, spacious and fast immigration and customs. Proving that LAX can be world-class quality -- it just varies with which airline you choose to fly. AA (and QF) spent USD 300 million on the improvements to "their" terminal (which LAX still owns), so the nice customs/immigration is not accidental, it comes from an investment by the airline to have better facilities for their pax.

In TBIT it is very hard to get the various airlines to pay for any improvement to this (shared) terminal, as there are over a dozen airlines involved, and they all look for someone else to pay for it. Doesn't excuse the mess that TBIT became in the past decade, but it does explain it.

Thank you very much for the insight. As far as LAX is concerned, I live in Orange County, so unfortunately, LAX is my best option time-wise. I could elect to fly ex SNA and connect in SFO to Asia or elsewhere for Europe/South America. The price difference is negligible, but I prefer to fly-non stop when possible.

Though my preferred FFPs are with UA and NW, I will consider AA if the facilities are that much better at my home airport! Thanks again. Can't wait for the renovation to be completed.

SNA_Flyer May 8, 07 5:09 pm

If you are flying out late at night - be there at least two hours prior to departure. TBIT is a complete nightmare during this time, mostly due to the luggage screening lines. I'd seriously look at connecting through SFO. You will have a nice lounge up there, and not have to deal with the BS luggage screening lines.

I have avoided TBIT on my last two transpacs, routing QF LAX-SYD-MEL leaving from T4 instead of the nonstop LAX-MEL from TBIT, and SNA-SFO-HKG (AA/CX). The one extra stop was worth the trip through the 3rd world.

TBIT will (hopefully) be better once the new lounges open and they get baggage screening fixed. Time will tell.

sinthetiq May 9, 07 3:28 am

btw, TBIT baggage is now drop-and-go.

SNA_Flyer May 9, 07 10:34 am

^ Amazing. Progress!!

sinthetiq May 10, 07 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer (Post 7713089)
^ Amazing. Progress!!

thank the airlines. before tsa was stuck with the process of tagging the bag then having to identify the owner after the bag cleared so the porter could then take the bag to the counter to check-in.

number_6 May 10, 07 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by Taker Park (Post 7705788)
If I may add something, currently some of the QF and AA international flights are clearing customs in TBIT.

QF non-SYD flights, and 1 AA flight which arrives after the TBIT customs facility is closed use TBIT. The T4 customs facility is staffed for one shift only, so when it is closed a sterile tunnel connecting T4 to TBIT is used to funnel arriving pax to the open facility (also used if T4 facility is overloaded, as it is sized for 1 flight at a time).

number_6 May 10, 07 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by B-HQC (Post 7705865)
I will be on CX883 dep 2350 next week in J (with Emerald status),... how much time is generally needed to check in / get to the gate - can anyone advise?

I took CX 883 in F last December, checked in after 11 pm and it took at most 10 min to get airside. But I did not have checked baggage, which can take 30+ min at TBIT. The security line was so short that there was no point for CX to escort me through (as they usually do).
Part of the problem at TBIT are that the lines are unpredictable, and vary from 5 min to 50 min quite suddenly. But 90% of the time it is pretty good; only that worst 10% ever gets reported on the web. Still better than MIA and even JFK, as a point of comparison.

kkjay77 May 24, 07 4:22 pm

How is the constructions for the lounges progressing?
I've heard they will open the new alliance wide lounges in May before.

BALLARAT May 24, 07 11:38 pm

lounges
 
Does Anyone Know If Mexicana Is Going To Have A New Lounge.they Have Taken Lax Off Their List
Thanks In Advance

kkjay77 May 25, 07 8:39 am


Originally Posted by BALLARAT (Post 7796127)
Does Anyone Know If Mexicana Is Going To Have A New Lounge.they Have Taken Lax Off Their List
Thanks In Advance

There will be lounges for each alliance (one for OneWorld, one for SkyTeam and one for StarAlliance) and another for everyone else.

TerryK May 25, 07 8:54 am

Last I heard was September, however, they are backing away from it. :( There is no official opening date now. My guess is late 2007 or early 2008. :mad:

kkjay77 May 25, 07 7:04 pm

Damn unionized construction... :mad:
I was hoping it would open before July.

G702TT Jul 9, 07 8:36 pm

Recent Visit
 
Just recently used the TBIT Interim business lounge again. Compared to my visit in late December, the white chairs are now looking light greyish/brownish, definitly showing signs of heavy use. Still prefer the lounge to the depressing gate area where everyone looks homeless lying down on the floor with their shoes off. Upon arriving back, I waited about 30 minutes in the immigration line. Definitly a dungeon. The terminal updates can't come soon enough.

gpan Jul 18, 07 2:54 pm

First time using this interrim lounge - will avoid TBIT in the future until this is resolved -this place ranks worse than some of the domestic lounges....dirty chairrs...etc...not enough air..

rwhite Jul 19, 07 11:02 pm


Originally Posted by gpan (Post 8079451)
First time using this interrim lounge - will avoid TBIT in the future until this is resolved -this place ranks worse than some of the domestic lounges....dirty chairrs...etc...not enough air..

Well, it appears the *A lounge is now open...^ maybe the other 3 will open soon. We'll see.

jsgoldbe Jul 20, 07 11:48 am


Originally Posted by rwhite (Post 8088404)
Well, it appears the *A lounge is now open...^ maybe the other 3 will open soon. We'll see.

Any pictures?

filmwill Jul 20, 07 2:40 pm

Alliance Lounge Access @ TBIT
 
No elite status or anything like that to speak of--but domestically I'm used to buying lounge day passes with whichever carrier I'm on (work expense) day-of.

Is it possible to do this at TBIT at one of the new alliance lounges (or any lounge, for that matter?)

We're flying out on EVA, if that makes any difference.

eireman Jul 20, 07 2:47 pm

The only new lounge open so far is the Star Lounge.

The no alligned lounge is not open yet (eva is not in any alliance), probably towards the end of the year.

So I think you are out of luck assuming you are flying in Y, but no harm in asking - let us know

filmwill Jul 20, 07 2:54 pm

Not leaving until November, so maybe it'll be open by then?

Also, flying in L (Elite) class. Don't know if that'll make a difference or not.

EVA wasn't much helpful last year, so I'm not expecting them to do us any favors.

Didn't know if it was possible to utilize the lounge of an airline (or in this case, alliance) that you're not flying on that day.

N751PR Jul 22, 07 4:49 pm


Originally Posted by jsgoldbe (Post 8091272)
Any pictures?

A couple fresh from *A's website. Enjoy:

Business Class section:
http://www.staralliance.com/int/pres...ign2_large.jpg

First Class section:
http://www.staralliance.com/int/pres...ign1_large.jpg

EDIT, compliments to Taipei who pointed this out in the CI new LAX lounge open yet? thread. :)


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