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Connecting passengers who are arriving at LAX on international flights will also find useful information in the following thread:
Consolidated "Customs and Immigration at LAX" thread



"Published" Minimum Connect Time (MCT) international to domestic at LAX is 2 hours. Numerous LAX regulars advise that 3 hours is much safer. Wait times for incoming immigration and customs services are very inconsistent. While the vast majority of international flights arrive at the newly remodeled Tom Bradley Terminal, some airlines use older customs facilities in Terminal 2 or 6. View recent postings in this thread for more information.

T4 to T5 tunnel and a secure airside walkway between T4 and TBIT are now open. It is possible now to connect from T4, T5, T6, T7 and T8 to TBIT without exiting security.

In T-4, the access to the tunnel via an escalator and an elevator at the center of the terminal under the Terminal Transfer sign (it was formerly designated Gate 44). Take the escalator down to the transfer bus gate, then turn left and take the escalator down towards baggage claim. At the bottom of the escalator make a U turn to the right and enter through the double doors. Please consult the terminals maps for the location of the tunnel in terminals 5 and 6.

A secure airside walkway, which is on the top level of a airside connector between T4 and TBIT opened in February 2016; it is accessed by Gate 41 in T4 and near the Qantas Lounge in TBIT. The complete project, including a TSA checkpoint (photo illustrations), a bus port and a checked baggage inspection area, was expected to finished by the end of May 2016 (but it is yet to open as of early June). More details here: LAX Terminal 4 Connector
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LAX Terminal Maps

How to enter LAX/Parking Map

How Do I Connect from Terminal B through Terminal 8? Follow the Yellow Dots
Only terminals 4 through 8 and Tom Bradley International Terminal are connected airside (through tunnels between terminals 4, 5 and 6, above ground hallways between terminals 6, 7 and 8, and a newly-opened above-ground connector between terminal 4 and TBIT). There are occasional airside shuttles elsewhere, but are subject to change (e.g. AA to American eagle, afternoon AA to TBIT Qantas). Airport policy allows you to gain admission airside to a terminal you are not departing from with an ID and a same day boarding pass, but anecdotal reports indicate that sometimes this is not honored by security personnel.

Tom Bradley International Terminal serves most, but not all, foreign airlines.

In most instances, international arrivals require processing USDHS-CBP (immigration, recovering baggage and processing customs); if you are going on in your travels, there is a baggage recheck counter as you exit customs. This can be fairly rapid if you have Global Entry or are arriving at a slack period, but it can take 60-90 minutes if you are arriving during a busy arrivals period.

After clearing customs and immigration, you must exit to landside and proceed to your next terminal. It is now possible to connect from TBIT to T4, T5, T6, T7 and T8 through the secured airside area - link to map above - after clearing TSA security on the arrival level of TBIT at the exit from the Federal Inspections Services facility. Alternatively, you may take the free shuttle busses, which only proceed anti / counter clockwise direction (In Order: 1-2-3-TBIT-4-5-6-7-8), or you can walk. At ground level you will be sheltered by the overhead departures-serving roadway, but be exposed to vehicle fumes and cigarette smoke; on the departures level, you will be exposed to the weather. It should take no more than 5 minutes to walk from one adjacent terminal to another, but it can take significantly longer to walk between distant terminals - as long as 15 - 20 minutes.

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Old Jan 15, 18, 9:48 am
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I'm traveling in Business (intl) and First Class (US Domestic), do I have any recourse to changing flights with DL for the final leg since 2 hr is the specified minconnect at lax?
Citizenship/passport? Global Entry? Checked bags?

A US passport holder with Global Entry and without checked bags will make this connection with time to spare.
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Gotcha.

Non US citizenship, not GE eligible, and traveling with 2 checked bags. Guess Iím toast.
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2 hours is probably the bare minimum required for this connection. But the good news is you are on a single ticket so Delta will be responsible for getting you to OAK, one way or another.
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Old Jan 19, 18, 6:32 pm
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Folks,

I've just deleted a bunch of posts bickering over "luggage line" at TBIT. Please do not argue about language or semantics. FlyerTalk is a diverse, multi-cultural community; some of our members use different terminology than others do.

Getting to the subject at hand, arriving international passengers without checked bags do not have to wait at the luggage carousels for their bags to show up. At TBIT that can save up to an hour's wait.

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Old Jan 23, 18, 9:58 pm
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No transfer desk at LAX?

My wife is flying PDX-LAX-HKG-BKK tonight, first leg domestic on AS and then CX for last two legs. J class award ticket from Alaska Mileage Plan, luggage checked through to BKK. This is *not* time sensitive.

At checkin at PDX they told her to get the LAX-HKG-BKK boarding passes at LAX. Upon arrival at LAX, she took the air side secure link from T6 to TBIT but then found there was no transfer desk and no way of getting a boarding pass. She asked at the Qantas lounge, and they have a printer for QF passes only. A TSA agent told her that she should go to the gate 45 minutes before boarding to get her pass. No CX employees nor agents anywhere to be seen.

This all sounded a bit fishy, so she called. I called Alaska, who were unable to help, and Cathay had a long wait time. I was amazed after a LOT of Googling to find only one official page guiding folks through this maze (Air NZ) and that seemed a little out of date (it didn't mention the airside connection to TBIT). To be safe, I checked her into CX using my mobile app and texted her the boarding passes. There was no indication she was checked in, and it seemed very possible that she might have been bumped as a no-show.

My question: what's the official method for domestic to international transfer at LAX if you need any assistance, for example, to collect a boarding pass? I'm really surprised the $150M they spent didn't include a desk to deal with this kind of thing (google pretty much any international airport code plus "international transfer" to see what I mean). Is she really expected to go in and out of security and use the land side check in desks?

We will be doing this trip as a family in the next year, so I really would like to know the official guide to what we're meant to do and if there's anything on the web describing this.

Thanks in advance.
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Transfer desk is not a thing in the US... we don't have exit immigration control so there is no sterile zone on departure.

Since your post 2 days old, I assume your wife got on the the CX flight without problem. But if someone is searching this thread later for the same information, there are several ways you can obtain boarding pass at TBIT air side:

The first way is the most obvious... you can check in online via your phone.
The second way is to use the automated kiosk. There are several located throughout TBIT air side and at least 1 in the T4-TBIT connector.
The third way is to show up at the gate and get paper boarding pass.
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#3 would be subject to landside checkin cutoff time, so better the first two

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I am wondering if I am being totally delusional to consider a perfect world 1:40 connection (arr 22:50, dep 00:30) from T2 to TBIT?

I would go carry on only and be departing in J, checked in online (presumably with preprinted from home boarding pass) - the biggest catch is seperate tickets.

*Alternative involves TPAC from YVR likely in Y
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I wouldn't call you delusional, but instead - optimistic. You are hitting Bradley during prime time, and the terminal will be quite busy. Even with business class access, I've been finding it takes at least 20 minutes to go through security there in the last two years, at busy periods.

It's doable, but if you have something like a 20 minute delay getting off your Terminal 2 flight, your margin of error is going to be expended. With a 20 minute delay, you probably won't get to the back of the Bradley security line for at least another 12-15 minutes. Assuming the security line is 20 minutes, depending on the location of your gate in Bradley, you might need another 8-10 minutes to arrive at your plane. You might also investigate whether the airline you are using at Bradley has an early cut-off time, where you have to be on board.

This is not something I personally would attempt, but it's certainly not a delusional scenario.
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Originally Posted by nomadic.relief View Post
I am wondering if I am being totally delusional to consider a perfect world 1:40 connection (arr 22:50, dep 00:30) from T2 to TBIT?
Are you sure it is T2? If you're flying to LAX on Air Canada, they've relocated to T6, which is connected to TBIT behind security (the wiki has a link to a map).
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Thanks Craig6z, that is about what I suspected, but it's been a while since I've had a time crunch at LAX that required a land-side excursion. Mainly I wasn't sure when "busy" hours were and TSA app shows "not busy" then ... I didn't quite trust that. Usually I'd just hike over to another TSA preCheck terminal then do the corridor to TBIT, but clearly that's not a good choice in this case!

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Are you sure it is T2? If you're flying to LAX on Air Canada, they've relocated to T6, which is connected to TBIT behind security (the wiki has a link to a map).
Unfortunately to pull this off I'd have to fly WestJet, which seems to now live in T2. If it were T6 I'd be way less concerned!
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1:40 to connect T2 to TBIT should be ok with just carry on and boarding pass already in hand.

You can even try to take the air side shuttle from T2 to TBIT so you can skip the TSA line.
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If T2, DL does an airside shuttle T2 to TBIT. I used it in Aug, connecting to a VA flight. I don’t remember having to show a boarding pass for the bus and I did not have to reclear security at TBIT. But you are at the far north end of TBIT.
But 100 minutes does seem tight.
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Hello,

I am looking to book a J award from Calgary, Canada to Seoul. Is 1 hour 10 mins enough connection time to get from Air Canada in Terminal 6 (landing at 9:50pm) to Asiana at TBIT (deparing at 11:00pm)? I will have checked luggage.
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Hello,

I am looking to book a J award from Calgary, Canada to Seoul. Is 1 hour 10 mins enough connection time to get from Air Canada in Terminal 6 (landing at 9:50pm) to Asiana at TBIT (deparing at 11:00pm)? I will have checked luggage.
Depends on whether you can check your bags through from YYC to ICN. Are you flying on one PNR or two?

You will not have the time to wait for and pick ups your bags at T6 and then get TBIT before the cut off for checking bags for the Asiana flight. If you can check your bags through, 1:10 is fine, assuming that your flight from Calgary is on time, as you can go from T6 to TBIT without exiting the secured airside area (see link to map in the wiki).
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