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chrisl137 Aug 23, 2022 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 34539599)
The last 3 times I've been in the garage myself, driving around and looking for a parking spot with with a charger - I lost count of how many pickup trucks and SUVs were jammed into those spots. No enforcement at all - no towing, no tickets. If they won't enforce the parking rules, what's the purpose of putting in the chargers?

Are those the chargers that were still bagged over because they weren't hooked up yet? They installed the mechanical bits long before they wired them, and there was no enforcement while they were bagged over. Even this past weekend it looked like many of the first floor chargers were still not activated yet. They have a Dalek patrolling the garage now - presumably it will exterminate any non-EV users in EV spots in the future.

bocastephen Aug 23, 2022 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by chrisl137 (Post 34540139)
Are those the chargers that were still bagged over because they weren't hooked up yet? They installed the mechanical bits long before they wired them, and there was no enforcement while they were bagged over. Even this past weekend it looked like many of the first floor chargers were still not activated yet. They have a Dalek patrolling the garage now - presumably it will exterminate any non-EV users in EV spots in the future.

The bagged ones were months ago, but there arevonly a few of those now. I actually tricked a bagged charger to charge my car for free before they enabled to paid-charging application last winter.

I don't think the non-EV users will avoid the EV spots until they return from the trip and find either their car is missing and in the tow pound, or has a $500 citation slapped on the windshield - or easier, just add the $500 fine to their parking fee via the license plate reader so they need to pay it to exit the garage.

downinit Aug 24, 2022 12:55 pm

Those garages are frequently filled to near capacity, especially now with the construction and the fact that they are prebooking them online. Are you suggesting that someone who does not own an electric car should not be allowed to park in the garage if the only open spots all have chargers?

bocastephen Aug 24, 2022 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by downinit (Post 34542225)
Those garages are frequently filled to near capacity, especially now with the construction and the fact that they are prebooking them online. Are you suggesting that someone who does not own an electric car should not be allowed to park in the garage if the only open spots all have chargers?

Correct - that's exactly what I am saying. Those spots should be reserved exclusively for electric cars, some of which may enter the garage without a reservation. Furthermore, some EV owners are reserving these spots, only to find out the spot they reserved is unavailable because too many are blocked by non-EV vehicles. The chargers were put in the garage for that purpose, and the signage on their exclusive use is clearly posted - what's missing are the enforcement and penalties.

zip10001 Sep 26, 2022 7:22 am

Heard on the news: road closures 11pm-8am starting Sep 26 2022


REMINDER: Overnight road closures at the Tom Bradley International Terminal will cause traffic impacts.
Plan ahead, arrive early, and listen to traffic officer instructions. https://t.co/FU0wcOApuQ
— LAX Airport (@flyLAXairport)

chrisl137 Jan 2, 2023 4:13 pm

It's now 2023. The guideway has been complete since May and cars started arriving in August. Do we have any kind of firm date for the opening of the APM? It seems to always be presented as "by 2023".

trainman74 Jan 2, 2023 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by chrisl137 (Post 34886176)
It's now 2023. The guideway has been complete since May and cars started arriving in August. Do we have any kind of firm date for the opening of the APM? It seems to always be presented as "by 2023".

This is from an L.A. Times article that ran in the paper Sunday (link to the full article):

LAX-it will close (and ride-shares and taxis will go back to looping through the terminal area) once LAX opens its long-planned Automated People Mover (APM), an elevated electric train system with moving sidewalks and escalators. The APM — a major milestone after years of changes and construction at LAX — had been due for completion by the end of 2023. But on Nov. 16, LAX spokesman Heath Montgomery said, “We anticipate the beginning of operations for the APM in 2024 and are working to have a more definitive operational date soon.”

chrisl137 Jan 2, 2023 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by trainman74 (Post 34886875)
This is from an L.A. Times article that ran in the paper Sunday (link to the full article)

I missed that article. It sounds like they're not going to open the APM until they have the CONRAC/ITF-East fully open, too. Earlier it sounded like they'd start running the APM to the Economy Lot & Transit Center before they completed ITF-East. Kind of disappointing, because buses can still get stuck in traffic outside the U, even if they have the express lane inside.

TWA884 Apr 3, 2023 7:18 pm

Central Terminal Area Arrivals Level Northbound East Way Closure

Activity:

To facilitate work for the Landside Access Modernization Program, northbound East Way will be continuously closed at the arrivals level. Vehicular and pedestrian detours will be in place, and onsite flaggers and signage will help to facilitate travel.

Please plan ahead and use caution when traveling near construction areas.

Dates/Work Hours:


Tuesday, April 4, at 12:00 a.m. through Friday, May 26, at 6:00 a.m.


HkCaGu Apr 4, 2023 8:32 am


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 35141482)


That's the roadway from T6 to T2. I don't think I've ever used that direction.

chrisl137 Apr 5, 2023 9:46 am


Originally Posted by HkCaGu (Post 35142763)
That's the roadway from T6 to T2. I don't think I've ever used that direction.

The northbound sides of East Way and West Way are probably the least used pieces of pavement at LAX. They're useful for airport personnel but I can't imagine they get a lot of passenger traffic.

jerry a. laska Apr 5, 2023 11:23 am


Originally Posted by HkCaGu (Post 35142763)
That's the roadway from T6 to T2. I don't think I've ever used that direction.


Originally Posted by chrisl137 (Post 35146014)
The northbound sides of East Way and West Way are probably the least used pieces of pavement at LAX. They're useful for airport personnel but I can't imagine they get a lot of passenger traffic.

I use that sidewalk when arriving on AS or AA and walking to the Hyatt LAX SFO.

TWA884 Apr 5, 2023 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35146273)
I use that sidewalk when arriving on AS or AA and walking to the Hyatt SFO.

That's one long walk. ;)

jerry a. laska Apr 5, 2023 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 35146600)
That's one long walk. ;)

.4 miles to LAX-IT from T6/T7 plus an additional .2 to HR SFO; I'm usually faster than the shuttle. For an AA flight to/from Terminal B it's about a mile. Feels good after being on the plane and nice to get the exercise before getting on the plane.

The flaggers on the route for the last year or so see you coming and get traffic stopped so there is no slow down until you get to the crossings for T2/T1. Most of the traffic in that area is FAA, TSA, airport, construction, and lost people.

Now I see the wink thanks to Craig6z. Subtle.

Craig6z Apr 5, 2023 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35146713)
.4 miles to LAX-IT from T6/T7 plus an additional .2 to HR SFO; I'm usually faster than the shuttle. For an AA flight to/from Terminal B it's about a mile. Feels good after being on the plane and nice to get the exercise before getting on the plane.

The flaggers on the route for the last year or so see you coming and get traffic stopped so there is no slow down until you get to the crossings for T2/T1. Most of the traffic in that area is FAA, TSA, airport, construction, and lost people.

Maybe there is a Star Trek transporter at the Hyatt LAX, that I haven't come across. Otherwise per Google maps it is an 137 hour walk to the HR in Burlingame. ;)


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