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Gays prefering holiday destinations with a non-gay scene?
I mean you do not HAVE to go to gay scene even if there is one.

But that would be a great new topic in the GLBT board.
Best destinations for Gays without any gay scene :D:D:D

But be sure to do Tel Aviv after Beirut, since Lebanon won't let you in the country if you have an Israeli stamp in your passport.

There are several options to circumvent this:

1. Ask the israeli immigration guys to not stamp your passport.

2. Have 2 passports: This is actually what most of my colleagues have who travel often in that region

3. Make friends with gays in Lebanese secret service. They even can make it possible to DIRECTLY go from Israel to Lebanon. Just google: Daniel Sharon gay

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/906147.html

You really don't want to go to Tel Aviv with a Lebanese stamp in your passport. Tt will significantly delay the immigration process as I found out last year.

The solution is to have two passports. I have one with "clean" stamps and one with "naughty" ones. :p :p :p

I am the only gay in the village - I am the gay scene! ;)

If anybody knows, you should, so I'll take your word for it. :D

In case you guys missed this article in the New York Times (Nov 1, 2007) on a European kid who was raped in Dubai by three guys and on the local authorities' response.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/wo...ld&oref=slogin

Here are some points:
"The authorities not only discouraged Alex from pressing charges, he, his family and French diplomats say; they raised the possibility of charging him with criminal homosexual activity, and neglected for weeks to inform him or his parents that one of his attackers had tested H.I.V. positive while in prison four years earlier.
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United Arab Emirates law does not recognize rape of males, only a crime called “forced homosexuality.” The two adult men charged with sexually assaulting Alex have pleaded not guilty, although sperm from all three were found in Alex. ... Legal experts here say that men convicted of sexually assaulting other men usually serve sentences ranging from a few months to two years.
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[This matter] also highlights the taboos surrounding H.I.V. and homosexuality that Dubai residents say have allowed rampant harassment of gays and have encouraged the health system to treat H.I.V. virtually in secret. (Under Emirates law, foreigners with H.I.V., or those convicted of homosexual activity, are deported.)"


I never understand why gay travelers want to support with their tourism those countries that have clearly said "You're not welcome here" to the foreign gays and continue to oppress the local ones.

This discussion is old, BCH.
You dont support with your tourism the politics of a country. You support the people there. What about some nice discussions with the sooo oppressed local gays there and learn what is really going on?


By the way to which middle eastern countries exept Israel have you been BCH?

Ever been to the vast worker camps with raw sewage in the streets where the imported and exploited staff that keep the place running live? Maybe great for those into heavy M/S, S &M, disipline scenes. The REAL Dubai, eh?

Ok - people - we're wandering over to discussion of politics (especially middle east politics again) - please keep the topic on Dubai. Thanks!!!

peteropny - co-moderator - GLBT

Male Rape in Dubai
 

Speaking of Dubai - There was a front page story in yesterday's NY Times (11/01/07) about the rape of a French male teenage by 3 Emirati men and the major challenges the legal system there has presented to the boy and his parents, including the government's witholding of the HIV positive status of one of the rapists.

At one point, the parents were told that their son could be arrested for having been raped and serve a year in jail, as homsexuality is illegal in Dubai. At one point they had their son leave the country.

Suggest anyone considering a visit to Dubai might get some insight into the "sexual politics" of the country, by reading this article.

I read the article, very disturbing. Hopefully, the public pressure will make Dubai modernize its criminal-justice system to match its supposedly modernized commercial-law system.

I agree. I will not be visiting Dubai any time soon.

Ditto. I'll go out of my way to avoid it. Extremely sad and disturbing article.

Anyone with tips about Dubai gay life? Btw, just found out that gaydar and all gay related websites are denied access in Dubai....

Rgs,