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pickyflyer Oct 26, 2024 11:51 am


Originally Posted by flyerworld101 (Post 36624430)
I am happy about the changes. All the Chilean consultants doing domestic routes are *****. Fly business and international long routes.

I see this as a huge improvement for Chilean flyers that work in the mines and live in Santiago and fly roundtrip to ANF or CJC. Let's say you have a 7x7 shift... you could easily get platinum tier in six months. And everything paid by the mining companies.

flyerworld101 Oct 26, 2024 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by pickyflyer (Post 36625843)
I see this as a huge improvement for Chilean flyers that work in the mines and live in Santiago and fly roundtrip to ANF or CJC. Let's say you have a 7x7 shift... you could easily get platinum tier in six months. And everything paid by the mining companies.

The contrary. All those working in the mines were B/BS for the qualifying segments, not $$ spending.

JC1976 Oct 27, 2024 12:54 am

Where did you see 15x as the multiplier?

For US residents it’s 9x or 6x and need 200k to get to BS so $22,222 or $26,667 usd according to my calculations.

I’ve noticed airfares seem to be higher for next year especially between full and business. Last year the gap was as low as 800, this year 1000, next year more than 1200 so roughly 3k round trip. So after 7 roundtrips in biz one would qualify for BS and get 14 upgrades for the rest of the year. These changes seem to benefit international flyers which they have better margins with per passenger.

BS 22,222/14=1,587.286 per upgrade.
Black 11,111/8=1,388.875 per upgrade.

So I ask myself if BS worth it. If they want more BS they should have a separate lounge or something like UA that has a separate lounge for international business.

AdamSouthFL Oct 27, 2024 3:40 am


Originally Posted by JC1976 (Post 36626833)
Where did you see 15x as the multiplier?

This will be the new multiplier per $US dollar for national flights in Chile for Full, Prem Economy/Business fares.
Peru will be a whopping 22.5 points, Brazil 4.5 points per $Real.

AdamSouthFL Oct 27, 2024 3:53 am

I think US based elites will have an advantage over our friends in other countries because, assuming qualifying points earned on Delta will remain as it does today, we will be able to apply all Delta flights to LATAM Pass. The minimum LATAM flights rule is exiting and Delta posts as distance flown X fare class.

On another note, I don’t understand their thinking regarding lowering the Gold and Platinum levels. Gold at 12,000 points could be earned on 1 flight. It seems like there could be double or triple Gold and Plt elites after next year.

sseron Oct 29, 2024 10:11 am

and in Colombia will be 30 points for national flights for FULL, PE and Business

sseron Oct 29, 2024 10:24 am


Originally Posted by AdamSouthFL (Post 36627003)
I think US based elites will have an advantage over our friends in other countries because, assuming qualifying points earned on Delta will remain as it does today, we will be able to apply all Delta flights to LATAM Pass. The minimum LATAM flights rule is exiting and Delta posts as distance flown X fare class.

On another note, I don’t understand their thinking regarding lowering the Gold and Platinum levels. Gold at 12,000 points could be earned on 1 flight. It seems like there could be double or triple Gold and Plt elites after next year.

it is true that the amount of elite passangers will increase a lot on 2026, i understand maybe for gold because is easy to get if you have a latam credit card, but for platinum it will be a chaos in airports with small lounges like Mia, where the lounge is at maxium capacity when 2 or 3 latam flights have departures at same times.
went to MIA lounge 3 weeks ago and was full and in the entrance a line of 7-10 people waiting to enter.

AdamSouthFL Oct 29, 2024 11:24 am


Originally Posted by sseron (Post 36632578)
and in Colombia will be 30 points for national flights for FULL, PE and Business

I see that now. Looks like they updated the Colombia site. Wow .. 30 points per USD.

AdamSouthFL Oct 29, 2024 11:26 am


Originally Posted by sseron (Post 36632612)
...but for platinum it will be a chaos in airports with small lounges

This is my concern too. Easy to qualify for PLT and PLT gives lounge access (currently). Maybe benefit changes are coming next.

JC1976 Oct 29, 2024 4:29 pm

It’s already heavy with Blacks at MIA

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2f660f7f7.jpeg

pickyflyer Oct 30, 2024 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by JC1976 (Post 36633596)
It’s already heavy with Blacks at MIA

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2f660f7f7.jpeg

Crazy right? Same happened to me when flying to GRU 2 months ago. Where are you flying if you don't mind me asking?

flyerworld101 Oct 30, 2024 11:11 pm

Wow, that is crazy. What flight was it? MIA-GRU? I am black, have a credit card, and will take 5 long flights (out of south America) in the next 3 months. I hope I get the upgrades.

We should create a thread to share upgrade stories to better understand the odds (I know there is a big random factor).


JC1976 Oct 31, 2024 12:21 am


Originally Posted by pickyflyer (Post 36636156)
Crazy right? Same happened to me when flying to GRU 2 months ago. Where are you flying if you don't mind me asking?

GRU. There were 4 seats but I didn’t get one.
Does the BS companion show up on the upgrade list?

flyerworld101 Oct 31, 2024 1:12 am


Originally Posted by JC1976 (Post 36637077)
GRU. There were 4 seats but I didn’t get one.
Does the BS companion show up on the upgrade list?

Yeah companions show up in the list. You were finally 4th? Probably some BS sneaked in last minute

sseron Oct 31, 2024 10:17 am

Here I send you a screenshot of the time I saw more black signature together on a waitlist, when I asked SS they told us that a signature used the companions for his entire family.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...21e80c6fdb.jpg

the route was SCL- GRU last year, before credit cards were included in the upgrade system.

That was an unusual occasion. usually only have one or two Signature on the waitlists.


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